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RighteousnessTemperance&

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Clearly, those arrests fully vindicate the police mobbing the church during Easter services. :rolleyes:

Seriously, if this makes them look good in the eyes of Canadians, then Canada is a write-off, and this line is not mere rhetoric:

"His crime was the same — holding church services in a fascist country.
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Gold Dragon

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It looks like this pastor got the attention he wanted.

I wonder what Polish people who actually lived in the time of the Gestapo would think about his comments.

Churches all around the world who respect the laws of the land and love their neighbours have had no trouble continuing to worship with gathering and mask restrictions as outlined by their local health districts. Same with protest. It is possible to legally protest while respecting the laws of the land.

Romans 13:1-5

Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

Calgary police make arrest in relation to AHS injunction

It is important to understand that law enforcement recognizes people’s desire to participate in faith-based gatherings as well as the right to protest. However, as we find ourselves in the midst of a global pandemic, we all must comply with public health orders in order to ensure everyone’s safety and wellbeing.

We continue to ask those who may be considering organizing or participating in any outdoor events to ensure they are familiar with public health order requirements and to do their part to prevent further spread of the virus.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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It looks like this pastor got the attention he wanted.

I wonder what Polish people who actually lived in the time of the Gestapo would think about his comments.

Churches all around the world who respect the laws of the land and love their neighbours have had no trouble continuing to worship with gathering and mask restrictions as outlined by their local health districts. Same with protest. It is possible to legally protest while respecting the laws of the land.



Calgary police make arrest in relation to AHS injunction
The cops sent in an armed militia on Easter week into the church. I wonder if they could have softened their approach to a church gathering instead of pissing them off? Maybe a private conversation with law enforcement and the church elders would have changed the whole outcome. BTW, what the cops did by barging into the church and then later arresting him and dragging him off was shameful.
 

Gold Dragon

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The cops sent in an armed militia on Easter week into the church. I wonder if they could have softened their approach to a church gathering instead of pissing them off? Maybe a private conversation with law enforcement and the church elders would have changed the whole outcome. BTW, what the cops did by barging into the church and then later arresting him and dragging him off was shameful.

Yes I watched the easter video.

He was totally inappropriate to the health officials doing their job of investigating a health violation in the middle of a pandemic. To investigate they need to see how many people are there during a service.

This was not the first time he was notified about his public health violation. It was not an accidental mistake. He had already been fined multiple times for violating the health regulations leading up to the easter confrontation. He was blantantly rebelling against the authorities in opposition to Romans 13.
 

Gold Dragon

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The pastor looks like either his parents or grandparents lived through the Nazi occupation of Poland. Then, he of an age to have lived through the days of the KGB and its Polish lackeys.

I would think comparing what he experienced to their experiences would be insulting to what they went through.
 

Gold Dragon

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Hyperbolic yes, insulting no. The pastor just went to "preaching". He is after all I believe a Pentecostal.

If you were tortured for being american, and then your son was given a parking ticket and tried to make it sound like the same thing, would that not be insulting?
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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The pastor looks like either his parents or grandparents lived through the Nazi occupation of Poland. Then, he of an age to have lived through the days of the KGB and its Polish lackeys.
The NAZIS attempted to starve the Polish people to death. Why those caught grinding wheat for bread were shot. The Stazi police were no better. Farming your property, especially with modern equipment was an executable offense. My GGrandfather kept 2 teams of plow horses on his Pennsylvania farm because his fear of the Communists was always there. Both Nazi & Soviets sucked.
 

Gold Dragon

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Corbella: Defiant Alberta pastors defame and blaspheme Jesus with their actions | Calgary Herald

There are about 3,100 churches in Alberta and pretty much the only ones we hear about are the two that have repeatedly defied public health orders.

First, there was Edmonton-area GraceLife Church. Its pastor, James Coates, was eventually arrested and jailed for refusing to adhere to COVID-19 health measures. The measures required that no more than 15 per cent of the building’s capacity be filled with people and everyone is to be masked. Eventually, authorities were forced to put up an unscalable fence around the Spruce Grove building to prevent the defiance from taking place. Neighbours of the church say they were being verbally accosted by the parishioners.

Then there’s Street Church Pastor Artur Pawlowski in Calgary who garnered national and international attention for screaming at Calgary police officers and health officials — six in all — who entered the building where he held church on the Easter weekend, calling them “Nazis”, “Gestapo”, “Fascists” and “Communists.”

I’ve been asked a lot lately what I think about these pastors being arrested and dragged off to jail.

In short, I think their harsh and allegedly illegal behaviour is blasphemous against Jesus and damages the church far more than any COVID restrictions ever could.

First of all, what Pawlowski said is not only wrong and unChristian, it’s not true. There is no evidence that the mild-mannered male and female Calgary officers who showed up at the building where Pawlowski holds church services are Nazis. To call people just trying to do their job some of the worst slurs possible throws the church into disrepute.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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Corbella: Defiant Alberta pastors defame and blaspheme Jesus with their actions | Calgary Herald

First of all, what Pawlowski said is not only wrong and unChristian, it’s not true. There is no evidence that the mild-mannered male and female Calgary officers who showed up at the building where Pawlowski holds church services are Nazis. To call people just trying to do their job some of the worst slurs possible throws the church into disrepute.

"…people just trying to do their job…."

"Ve vere just doing our duty." Yeah, sure. Just like "good" Nazis.

Obviously, Nazis and Communists are not the same ideologically. But both are historically extremely totalitarian. He is using the terms as generalizations of behavior. Again, it's their totalitarian tactics reminiscent of a history most know should not be repeated. And yet, here they are.
 
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Gold Dragon

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Authorities attend Calgary church to make sure COVID-19 orders were being followed

A spokesperson says the inspector "was there to observe whether the organization was following" Alberta's health guidelines laid out in regards to the COVID-19 pandemic.

However, because of the confrontation, they could not complete their work.

"Our inspector was not granted access inside, so was unable to confirm if (Chief Medical Officer of Health) orders were being followed," said Marni Kuhlmann, senior communication advisor with AHS, in a an email to CTV News.

She adds the job of inspectors is vital to maintaining public health in the face of the pandemic.

"Our inspectors have an important job to do and we ask that business owners and organizations treat them with respect. We stand by all of our public health inspectors who are doing an incredible job in trying and challenging circumstances," she said.

"We expect that all places of worship across Alberta follow the CMOH restrictions and we thank everyone who continues to do their part to prevent the spread of COVID-19 this holiday weekend and throughout the pandemic."

Calgary police say they were called to assist with a situation at Pawlowski's Street Church on Saturday. The CPS says one police officer was dispatched to the scene.

"The concern was that the people in attendance were not adhering to the government’s COVID-19 public health orders, which are in place to ensure everyone's safety," police said in a release.

Officials say the police officer's presence was only to maintain the peace during the incident and while "the organizer of the gathering was uncooperative" with the investigators; no tickets were issued at the time.

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The AHS public health inspector and all other parties left the building a short time later. They say they remained inside Street Church for approximately one minute.

The CPS says it has no intention of interrupting anyone's holidays or religious events, but it has a duty to support its partner agencies that are tasked with upholding the PHA.
 
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