Meercat,
"How can you compare what the abortionist will tell you to justify what they do, to Catholics "justifying worship" of Mary?"
I'll get to that in a minute.
"First of all, a killing is a killing, worhip is worship and so on."
Yes, I know. I am using that example to make a point. As a matter of fact, your staement there actually
makes my point.
It shouldnt be difficult to grasp, but let me try again.
I am using the baby extermination centers as an analogy, to try and help catholics understand why their claims to not committing idolatry regarding Mary does not even come close to swaying us.
Many times Catholics will say that they do not "worship" Mary. If you ask them way, many times they will say that its because they use a different word for it. They say that "Latria" is the word they use for how they worship God, but they do not use that word for Mary. They call that "Dulia", rather then "Latria".
They say..."Its a different word! See??"
And the point I am making is that if you simply give something a different name, that does not change the essence of what is going on.
I use the baby extermination centers because I know catholics are strongly pro-Life, and against abortion. The baby killers will sometimes say "Oh, we are not killing babies here, we are "eliminating" a "product of conception". I am asking the Catholics if that makes what they do acceptable, knowing that they will say "no".
We know the baby killers in the baby extermination centers are killing babies because
we know the truth, regardless of what they say. And the different words they use to try and soften it does not change it in the least. We know not only because of what God declares, but also because we see the evidence...the little baby arms and baby legs and baby bodies that they throw away have been found.
In the same way as that, we know that the CC promotes the idolatry, or the worship of Mary, regardless of what they say, because...just like the abortionists...of the testimony of God in the scriptures, and because we see the evidence...
Prayers after prayers after prayers directed towards Mary that are pure idolatry. Idols of Mary being bowed before, feet kissed, and prayed to. Idols of Mary paraded all around the streets of the city for thousands and thousands of people to sing the praises of the "magnificent" and "all powerful" "Queen of the Universe" Mary. The Rosary with its 150 prayers repeated over and over to Mary, with just a mere 15 or so said to God. On and on and on it goes.
"Mary is NOT a god of any kind,..."
Of course not, but in the world of the CC she is
treated as if she
were a goddess. That is idolatry, pure and simple.
"...but we highly venerate her for her "Fiat"......that is, when she said to the Angel Gabriel "be it done unto me according to thy word" thus consenting to be the mother of our LORD. What's so wrong about that?"
Yes, I have heard it said by catholics that all of heaven was waiting to see if Mary would "grant God permission" to do as He said He was going to do. It serves to keep Mary "high and lifted up", as a goddess should be.
The truth is that God had already
told Mary what was going to happen to her. God was in no way, shape or form asking Mary's permission, or waiting for her to say yes. Mary was a fine, godly jewish girl, and she is to be commended for being a pliable "lump of clay" in Gods hands. The scriptures tell us we all should be "pliable lumps of clay" in His hands.
But that is all she is to be commnded for. God had
declared to her what was
going to happen. And Mary said, "Let it be unto me".
God bless,
Mike