Charlie Sheen Questions 911 official story

These 9/11 conspiracy theories all seem to be built upon a single assertion: "Steel-framed skyscrapers have never collapsed from fire"

The assertion is irrelevant.

Why?

The conspiracy spinners want you to believe that the World Trade Center twin towers were conventionally designed/constructed steel-framed buildings.

They were not.

(from World Trade Center article on Wikipedia)

Therefore, when the jets crashed through a number of primary supporting structures, and the resulting fire from the jet fuel, paper, and office furnishings caused the trusses that connected the supporting core to the load-bearing outer walls to weaken and separate, the whole building lost its structural integrity almost at once.

This has been documented in a number of places and explains the way each of the towers fell.

I realize that most conspiracy buffs actually want to believe that they have some sort of secret knowledge about the way things really happened, so I doubt facts will get in anyone's way.

 

All emotion and no real facts again, figures. </font>[/QUOTE]Roll your eyes at someone who cares, ponch. I want evidence that Sheen is worth listening to about anything. You have none. </font>[/QUOTE]Why should we listen to you? What makes you more important that the person who
"drops fries at McDonalds's?"

 

Two things come to mind...

First, the lady who died in the suspicious accident was not going there to be questioned she was going to be arraigned...

Tha means she was going to there to be formally charged with her crimes...

This makes suicide a valid possibility...

And, apart from the conspiracy theorists hope it make it just as likely that her death was caused not by a government conspiracy but by terrorists left behind to clean up or protect those not yet dead...

Secondly, as anyone with half a brain knows the more people involved in a secret the harder it is to keep...

Thirdly, Charlie Sheen is well known for his political activism and hatred for the current administration... Ie., he has an axe to grind already... (Just like Michael Moore)

Fourth, it is no secret that the general news ouitlets, instead of wanting to help cover this up, also are Leftist Political Wackos wanting nothing more than to destroy the current administration...

Lastly, if there were any *real* possibility of such a conspiracy do you really think that the Democrats wouldn't be making far more noise about it...

The WTC Trade centers fell because the top floors failed and then pancaked their way down percusively overloading the strength of the floors below...

When the floors starting falling at the top they weren't dead weight anymore...

You may be able to hold a car against an incline if you start while it is sitting still...

Try stopping it once it gets moving...

Mike Sr.

 

Oh bTW did anyone notice that the POLL Poncho kept trumpetting was:

1. On CNN, who average viewer is not all that smart to begin with. And, whose participation in Polls always goes against the current administration?

2. It was on the ShowBiz Page... Doh! How many people of conservative values frequent the CNN ShowBiz Page???

3. Also, please note that the page plainly states that it was *NOT* a Scientific Poll.

IE., it was not Statistically Valid...

Mike Sr.

 

poncho has called CNN a propoganda site, in the past.

 

Staright & Narrow

First, we were NOT in Air Defense Mode...

Secondly, these were US carriers Squwaking Friendly Codes on IFF...

Third, the FAA had never had this scenario occur before...

Fourth, in spite of the Hollywood Script depicting just this situation, the FAA had never even theorized or ran simulations for it...

They took us by surprise and once the FAA was behind the curve it was too late to do anything about it...

Like scramble jet fighters... Who's alert on station times are, say, around 15 minutes (on a good day from cold start).

This is fine for outside threats... But, these were already inside our threat envelope...

Mike Sr.

 

Meanwhile, Zacarias Moussaoui, another one of the Al Qaeda terrorists, admits to planning to hijack and fly an airplane into the White House and to knowing about the attacks on the World Trade Center. I guess Charile Sheen hasn't talked to Zacarias Moussaoui lately about the aledged 9/11 "cover up".

 

Well, what about NORAD???? Oh, and plus, the scenario about jets flying into the WTC had been testified to as a possible threat before Congress, several years before it happened.

 

http://curtweldon.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=32193

 

Yes, I feel safe at night, S&N. That's because we Christians are not relying on U.S. air defenses for safety.

Psalm 20:7 (ESV)
Some trust in chariots and some in horses,
but we trust in the name of the Lord our God.

 

So then what brought down WTC 7? Other than the 20-story hole in the side facing the World Trade Center towers?? Plus the fires burning inside it as described by several firemen who were there. WTC 7 was struck and severely damaged by numerous several-hundred-ton perimeter column segments from the collapse of WTC 1, moving at over a hundred miles an hour.

Testimony of the firemen on the scene, "We have guys trying to make their way up into the pile, and they’re telling us that 7 is going to fall down..." At first, the witness says he doesn't think it's going to fall down, but this testimony shows that reports from firefighters who had been into the building are that they think it's in danger, and the estimate of the scene commander is that it will fall down. And this: "...but also we were pretty sure that 7 World Trade Center would collapse. Early on, we saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13...You actually could see there was a visible bulge, it ran up about three floors...We were concerned about the collapse of a 47-story building there.... So we go there and on the north and east side of 7 it didn’t look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn’t look good... Then this other officer I’m standing next to said, that building doesn’t look straight... forget it, nobody’s going into 7, there’s creaking, there are noises coming out of there, so we just stopped."

[ March 28, 2006, 01:34 AM: Message edited by: NiteShift ]

 

ROFL! That sounds like a thoroughly scientific study. I agree. (Stroking chin in a thoughtful fashion).

 

Digital images of the original photos were examined by Ronald Greeley of the Space Photography Laboratory at Arizona State University. After studying the high-res images, Greeley dismissed the notion that photos reveal anything slung under the 767. The photos show only the Boeing's right fairing, a pronounced bulge that contains the landing gear, and concluded that sunlight glinting off the fairing gave it an exaggerated look. "Such a glint causes a blossoming on film, which tends to be amplified in digital versions of images--the pixels are saturated and tend to 'spill over' to adjacent pixels."

[ March 28, 2006, 07:09 AM: Message edited by: NiteShift ]

 

W. Gene Corley of FEMA studied the airplane wreckage. A structural engineer with Construction Technology Laboratories, Corley and his team photographed aircraft debris on the roof of WTC 5, including a chunk of fuselage that clearly had passenger windows. "It's ... from the United Airlines plane that hit Tower 2," Corley states.

At the Pentagon crashsite, Allyn E. Kilsheimer was a structural engineer who helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane." said Kilsheimer. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box. I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts."

 

Lady Eagle,

NORAD is an AIR DEFENSE Command...

Their specific charter is to protect against threats coming into our airspace...

NORAD did get involved, after the fact, once the FAA *finally* notified them that it had lost track of the jets...

The software wasn't set up at that time to monitor properly IFF'd aricraft inside our borders closely enough to predict and warn of such attacks...

Weldon's rejection appears to be because no one fessed up to preventing Able Danger from passing it's information on civilian authorities...

Remember at that time Military and Civilian intelegence were rigidly separated by various laws and previous executive orders...

And, contrary to most on this forum... Most in our government do keep the law...

Good grief even the CIA and NSA weren't talking!

Mike Sr.

 

Excellent response!

Who here remembers the Nike missle defense systems of the US Army Air Defense Command (ARADCOM) on 30 to 40 years ago?