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Charlottesville, Trump and angry white males

TCassidy

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President Trump’s Lies, the Definitive List

Trump is the all-time liar champion by far.
I will just deal with part of the month of January to show that this list is more fake news.

JAN. 21 “I wasn't a fan of Iraq. I didn't want to go into Iraq.” (He was for an invasion before he was against it.)

No, he wasn't he said he was against it, but he supported the troops once they were sent.

JAN. 21 “A reporter for Time magazine — and I have been on their cover 14 or 15 times. I think we have the all-time record in the history of Time magazine.” (Trump was on the cover 11 times and Nixon appeared 55 times.)

Mistake. Not a lie.


JAN. 23 “Between 3 million and 5 million illegal votes caused me to lose the popular vote.” (There's no evidence of illegal voting.)

Actually the evidence is mounting. Now even left wing publications are saying it is possible up to 3 million people not eligible to vote cast ballots in 2016.

JAN. 25 “Now, the audience was the biggest ever. But this crowd was massive. Look how far back it goes. This crowd was massive.” (Official aerial photos show Obama's 2009 inauguration was much more heavily attended.)

No, the time stamps on the photos show that the Obama picture was taken while he was giving his speech but the Trump picture was taken at 6AM, over 5 hours before the event started.

JAN. 25 “Take a look at the Pew reports (which show voter fraud.)” (The report never mentioned voter fraud.)

It appears spokesman Spicer may have conflated two different studies, but let’s first address the one by the Pew Charitable Trusts. The 2012 report, “Inaccurate, Costly and Inefficient: Evidence That America’s Voter Registration System Needs an Upgrade,” found that “more than 1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters” and that “approximately 2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.”


JAN. 25 “You had millions of people that now aren't insured anymore.” (The real number is less than 1 million, according to the Urban Institute.)

The real number is 5.9 million people, according to Rand. But this number is offset by the 22.8 million who were newly insured bringing the total to 16.9 million more people insured. But it is true that 5.9 million people lost health insurance.

JAN. 25 “So, look, when President Obama was there two weeks ago making a speech, very nice speech. Two people were shot and killed during his speech. You can't have that.” (There were no gun homicide victims in Chicago that day.)

President Trump is wrong. It was not two people shot and killed. It was four people. And the statement (There were no gun homicide victims in Chicago that day.) is an out and out lie.

Juan Vasquez aged 35 Years was shot and killed in Gage on January 11.

David Gonzalez aged 18 Years was shot and killed in Brighton on January 11.

Umair Ullah aged 21 Years was shot and killed in Westridge on January 11.

Well, enough. I have shown the author of the article is either very stupid or a liar. Or both.

[Edited to add: I did get conflicting information on the day of his speech. So if someone can correct any errors above I would be grateful.]
 

Revmitchell

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I will just deal with part of the month of January to show that this list is more fake news.

JAN. 21 “I wasn't a fan of Iraq. I didn't want to go into Iraq.” (He was for an invasion before he was against it.)

No, he wasn't he said he was against it, but he supported the troops once they were sent.

JAN. 21 “A reporter for Time magazine — and I have been on their cover 14 or 15 times. I think we have the all-time record in the history of Time magazine.” (Trump was on the cover 11 times and Nixon appeared 55 times.)

Mistake. Not a lie.


JAN. 23 “Between 3 million and 5 million illegal votes caused me to lose the popular vote.” (There's no evidence of illegal voting.)

Actually the evidence is mounting. Now even left wing publications are saying it is possible up to 3 million people not eligible to vote cast ballots in 2016.

JAN. 25 “Now, the audience was the biggest ever. But this crowd was massive. Look how far back it goes. This crowd was massive.” (Official aerial photos show Obama's 2009 inauguration was much more heavily attended.)

No, the time stamps on the photos show that the Obama picture was taken while he was giving his speech but the Trump picture was taken at 6AM, over 5 hours before the event started.

JAN. 25 “Take a look at the Pew reports (which show voter fraud.)” (The report never mentioned voter fraud.)

It appears spokesman Spicer may have conflated two different studies, but let’s first address the one by the Pew Charitable Trusts. The 2012 report, “Inaccurate, Costly and Inefficient: Evidence That America’s Voter Registration System Needs an Upgrade,” found that “more than 1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters” and that “approximately 2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.”


JAN. 25 “You had millions of people that now aren't insured anymore.” (The real number is less than 1 million, according to the Urban Institute.)

The real number is 5.9 million people, according to Rand. But this number is offset by the 22.8 million who were newly insured bringing the total to 16.9 million more people insured. But it is true that 5.9 million people lost health insurance.

JAN. 25 “So, look, when President Obama was there two weeks ago making a speech, very nice speech. Two people were shot and killed during his speech. You can't have that.” (There were no gun homicide victims in Chicago that day.)

President Trump is wrong. It was not two people shot and killed. It was four people. And the statement (There were no gun homicide victims in Chicago that day.) is an out and out lie.

Juan Vasquez aged 35 Years was shot and killed in Gage on January 11.

David Gonzalez aged 18 Years was shot and killed in Brighton on January 11.

Umair Ullah aged 21 Years was shot and killed in Westridge on January 11.

Well, enough. I have shown the author of the article is either very stupid or a liar. Or both.

[Edited to add: I did get conflicting information on the day of his speech. So if someone can correct any errors above I would be grateful.]

Aww, let's not confuse it with facts
 
The game of social-welfare is rigged so that poverty can never be eliminated. It's a standard relative to the economy. If poverty was measured by an absolute standard, such as inadequate food and shelter, the problem would be solved.
 
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FollowTheWay

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1. Trump maintained that he was against the Iraq War from the beginning. That was a lie.
2.Trump is always making statements that are untrue. He was not on the cover of Time Magazine more than anyone else. That is a lie.
3."The evidence is mounting" Sign of having NO evidence.
4.Here is a UK Newspaper article on Trump's claim showing Trump's inauguration crowd over time.
Trump's inauguration crowd: Sean Spicer's claims versus the evidence

Remember the UK? They used to be one of our strongest allies before we elected a mad man

5. More Trump Deception on Voter Fraud - FactCheck.org
  • Trump falsely claimed that a Pew Charitable Trusts report supports his claim that millions of people voted illegally. The report documented millions of instances of voter registration inaccuracies.
  • Told the Pew report found no evidence of voter fraud, Trump falsely claimed the report “all of a sudden changed” and the author was now “groveling.” It did not, and he did not.
  • Trump claimed that “you have people registered in two states. They’re registered in a New York and a New Jersey. They vote twice.” The 2012 Pew report found that 2.75 million people were registered in more than one state — as apparently are four members of Trump’s cabinet or staff — but there is no evidence that any of them voted twice.
  • Trump claimed “I didn’t say there are millions” of fraudulent votes cast in the 2016 election. But he did — in a tweet in November, and again at a meeting with congressional leaders on Jan. 23.
  • Trump claimed “if you look at it they [fraudulent voters] all voted for Hillary.” Since there are no reports of widespread fraud, we’re not sure what to “look at,” but even the author who penned a disputed report on noncitizens voting found that 80 percent — not all — backed Barack Obama in 2008.
  • Trump said, “if dead people are registered to vote and voting, which they do …” But experts say this is largely urban myth and so-called cases of dead people voting are extremely rare.
continued later.....
 

FollowTheWay

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The game of social-welfare is rigged so that poverty can never be eliminated. It's a standard relative to the economy. If poverty was measured by an absolute standard, such as inadequate food and shelter, the problem would be solved.
To Jesus this was not a game. Read the Beatitudes or MAT 25.
 
To Jesus this was not a game. Read the Beatitudes or MAT 25.
The Beatitudes? I can't figure out how it relates to social-welfare programs. But, needless to say that if poverty is measured by a sensible standard, it's already been solved in the United States.

People don't require television, radio, telephone, air-conditioning, car, store-bought clothing, books, a computer, Internet access, carpeting, kitchen appliances, automatic laundry appliances, store-bought soap, beer, liquor, dope, tobacco, electricity, indoor plumbing, dental care, routine medical care, or a home-theater system to survive.

No one during the time of Christ had those things, and they did just fine. Poverty is when people go without adequate shelter, food and clothing. So, the problem of poverty in the USA has been solved.
 
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