Cheerleading

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I have a son on the way, so I cannot speak from experience. Only from what I would do if I were to have a daughter. Not a chance in the world my daughter will be put on display as a sex object in front of a bunch of sex crazed redneck men at a football game. That is just my opinion.

Joseph Botwinick

 

You sure don't think much of cheerleaders, do you?

What if your son wanted to become a cheerleader?

 

Some are on the football team, some in the band, and then some are cheerleaders. The only cheerleaders I've ever been exposed to were the ones in high school. Some of the girls did have bad reps. But, so did some of the football, basketball, baseball players, band members, and majorettes. The band was the worst. When they were on the road for competitions and away games, they were there to party. And they had more chaperones per kid than the cheerleaders.

I don't understand the statement about the rednecks. I've seen many a NFL game. Is there this great horde of rednecks there? Who are they and can anyone be one? (chuckling)

 

You sure don't think much of cheerleaders, do you?

What if your son wanted to become a cheerleader? </font>[/QUOTE]1. No I don't.

2. That's too bad. When he is 18, he can do whatever he wants. While he is in my house, he will do something useful with his time.

Joseph Botwinick

 

So then, you don't believe in sports, either?

 

So then, you don't believe in sports, either? </font>[/QUOTE]Mike, I think he is saying he is against effeminate ones (which IMHBAO, would include thoccer).

 

Actually, I think I am opposed to my son being around scantily clad girls and picking girls up in manners that are probably no big deal to most people, but is definitely inappropriate in my opinion.

Joseph Botwinick

 

I officiate High School basketball. I can say without fear of contradiction that the overwhelming majority of cheerleaders do wear risque clothing. I can also attest to the fact that the front row of the bleachers near where the cheerleaders stand is always packed full of teenage boys. There is standing room only. I have actually seen them run and get their friends during a timeout when it's time for the cheerleaders to get tossed in the air and get caught again. They are there for the express purpose of a cheap thrill. They aren't even interested in the game. I know; I watch them during the timeouts and between quarters.

I have two daughters. Neither would be allowed to appear in public with anything as immodest as a cheerleading uniform. If they are there just to lead cheers, why isn't their uniform a pair of jeans and a tee shirt instead of a mini skirt with a skimpy vest that reveals the girls belly?

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My advise is to be the bad guy. Time will reveal that you were actually the good guy. God gave our children parents so that we might protect them from harmful influences. The very fact that you have "concerns" tells me that you shouldn't allow it.

The bottom lines is, no one here on the Baptist Board has to give account for the way you raised your daughter. You do. You do what you know is right. You do what you know God would have you do. If you accept the advise of everyone here on the BB, you will be one frustrated individual.

Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts , we should live soberly, righteously, and godly , in this present world; (KJV)

Can the words "righteously" and "godly" even be associated with cheerleading?

 

I'm pretty sure we'd have different versions of "risque". I don't see a problem with a girl "revealing her belly", assuming she's not fat.

No daughters but, if I did, I wouldn't have a problem with them wearing a uniform like, say, Auburn's cheerleaders, which is more or less the standard cheerleading outfit.

Same reason game officials don't wear jeans and a t shirt.

 

As much as I hate soccer, it's not an effeminate sport.
Go tell Mick McCarthy to his face it's effemimate.

[ April 14, 2003, 11:17 AM: Message edited by: Mike McK ]

 

Dear AF Guy,

When my now-sixteen-year-old daughter was around the same age as your daughter, she wanted to engage in an activity that made me uncomfortable because of what seemed to me like a worldly bent, similar to your feelings about cheerleading. The first thing I did was ask her why she wanted to do. She admitted that she wanted to do it because all the other girls at church were doing it, so I was able to talk with her about the importance of not basing our decisions about what to do on what the crowd is doing. We compromised with another activity that was acceptable to both of us. Now she's glad that she didn't just go along with the crowd, and she's able to stand alone when other people are going in another direction. I suggest talking it over with your daughter, and possibly coming up with a compromise activity that you think will forther your goals of raising your children for the glory of God.

In our Precious Savior,

Rebecca

 

i don't see anything wrong with cheerleading..

GOD BLESS AMERICA

 

Since someone brought this topic up again, may we have a report from AF Guy?

Do you wish you share with us your decision and how you handled your little girl wanting to be a cheerleader?

 

My high school: Youth Christian School, had cheerleaders. They wear approiate uniforms but still look like cheerleaders. They don't do all the flips and stuff so they don't show there bottom side. And they do a great job at the games...

GOD BLESS AMERICA

 

AMEN!

May be if they wore some real bagging pants and kept it real.

 

So many people here are drawing sex and salaciousness into an otherwise innocent pasttime.

Could it be that the problem isn't with cheerleading or cheerleaders but the people whose minds automatically think of sex?

[ April 17, 2003, 02:41 PM: Message edited by: Mike McK ]

 

You will not get any criticism from me. I think your above statement says it all.

 

This thread has never been about the leading of cheers at a sporting event. No one has a problem with that. Also, almost everyone agrees that the examples demonstrated by professional cheerleaders are inappropriate for Christians to participate in (viewing or performing). The discussion has been that somewhere in between the two ideas is a line that is crossed. For me, that line is crossed by 99% of cheerleading participants and therefore, I would consider the activity, as a whole, to be avoided by Christian participants. As to your suggestion that the problem is in the eye of the beholder, I just have this to say and I mean this is the nicest way.