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Chick Publications
- Thread starter Salty
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Don't deny that God has used his stuff as way to reach people for Christ, but VERY hard and stern on people, does not exhibit much of that love of Christ feeling...
So much of his "facts" are good, just very objectable to its tone and content!
Except when it concerns the KJVO that is almost cultic!
Think better stuf to use as a witness to say Catholics would be I believe called Catholic Chronicles by steve Green!
Chick Tracts:
1. Message: Sometimes good, sometimes not so good.
2. Method: Much to the chagrin of some of my fellow ultra-serious theologues, I find the cartoon-book method effective. I don't believe they necessarily reduce the Gospel to a "cartoon mentality". As long as the message conveys a sound message, and leads the reader to a more serious study of the word, the tracts are useful.
1. Message: Sometimes good, sometimes not so good.
2. Method: Much to the chagrin of some of my fellow ultra-serious theologues, I find the cartoon-book method effective. I don't believe they necessarily reduce the Gospel to a "cartoon mentality". As long as the message conveys a sound message, and leads the reader to a more serious study of the word, the tracts are useful.
No and no. His tracts are not effective for reaching people in our context. We keep them away from our missions and outreach efforts.
Salty said:
It is one of about one hundred reasons we don't use his materials.
We use them by leaving them in public bathrooms or by handing them out at halloween.
No doubt some people are offended by the direct confrontation with the Gospel reality. After a halloween when we gave them out along with candy, I had an angry parent come to visit me. He asked "Did you give this to my child?". I said yes I probably did. He said "These are not age appropriate. I go to church too but these are not age appropriate". I said ok, thank you, we have some for younger kids. When our kids passed them out they might have given the ones that are for older kids to the younger kids. He said, This is not what halloween is all about! (I wondered what is halloween all about but just listened patiently). The next year we made sure to give the ones for younger kids to younger kids and the older ones to older kids. I wonder if the parent was concerned about the scary scenes depicted, or if he was convicted himself as he read it. I compared the scary scenes depicted to the halloween costumes and other saturday cartoons or typical movies kids see and thought, this is pretty innocuous.
The Pharasees were also offended, but some, even some believed.
Some people who come from a rough background of drugs, poverty, and family dysfunction, might more quickly recognize their needs and relate to the tracts that often portray these types of behaviors very honestly and openly. The tracts are loaded with Scripture, which is what has the power to change lives.
Others who think they have good works, live in the nice suburbs, have it made, etc, might seem more likely to come to Christ through close relationships with Christians who give their simple testimony, and share scripture, which again is what has the power to change hearts, as God's gives grace.
Either way its God's Word that does the powerful work on hearts and as God gives grace.
No doubt some people are offended by the direct confrontation with the Gospel reality. After a halloween when we gave them out along with candy, I had an angry parent come to visit me. He asked "Did you give this to my child?". I said yes I probably did. He said "These are not age appropriate. I go to church too but these are not age appropriate". I said ok, thank you, we have some for younger kids. When our kids passed them out they might have given the ones that are for older kids to the younger kids. He said, This is not what halloween is all about! (I wondered what is halloween all about but just listened patiently). The next year we made sure to give the ones for younger kids to younger kids and the older ones to older kids. I wonder if the parent was concerned about the scary scenes depicted, or if he was convicted himself as he read it. I compared the scary scenes depicted to the halloween costumes and other saturday cartoons or typical movies kids see and thought, this is pretty innocuous.
The Pharasees were also offended, but some, even some believed.
Some people who come from a rough background of drugs, poverty, and family dysfunction, might more quickly recognize their needs and relate to the tracts that often portray these types of behaviors very honestly and openly. The tracts are loaded with Scripture, which is what has the power to change lives.
Others who think they have good works, live in the nice suburbs, have it made, etc, might seem more likely to come to Christ through close relationships with Christians who give their simple testimony, and share scripture, which again is what has the power to change hearts, as God's gives grace.
Either way its God's Word that does the powerful work on hearts and as God gives grace.
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beameup
Member
Chick tracts are like using a sledgehammer... but sometimes you need a sledgehammer.
I can see the reasoning for using the KJV and after 30 years I have returned to it. I especially detest the NIV.
Chick focuses way too much on Catholic conspiracies, especially in regards to the Jesuits (they "created" Islam, etc.).
KJV verses that I memorized 40 years ago and have not "revisited" seem to still come into my mind to teach me.
I have never been able to memorize even ONE verse from another English version.
There are so many FREE aids available for the KJV that, with a computer, it is possible to do your own research
without knowledge of the "original" languages.
I believe that even David Hocking (who worked on the NKJV) has stated that the KJV uses the LEAST amount of words necessary
and is the most LITERAL translation of the English and that only about a dozen words used in the KJV are not used anywhere on the earth currently.
I can see the reasoning for using the KJV and after 30 years I have returned to it. I especially detest the NIV.
Chick focuses way too much on Catholic conspiracies, especially in regards to the Jesuits (they "created" Islam, etc.).
KJV verses that I memorized 40 years ago and have not "revisited" seem to still come into my mind to teach me.
I have never been able to memorize even ONE verse from another English version.
There are so many FREE aids available for the KJV that, with a computer, it is possible to do your own research
without knowledge of the "original" languages.
I believe that even David Hocking (who worked on the NKJV) has stated that the KJV uses the LEAST amount of words necessary
and is the most LITERAL translation of the English and that only about a dozen words used in the KJV are not used anywhere on the earth currently.
I have read a few good ones, but they are FEW. My former Pastor used them extensively and were his favorite. Like a previous poster said, they are like a sledgehammer, pretty harsh. But so was he, sometimes too much so.
But I was turned off to them after reading "The Curse of Baphomet" tract in said Pastors truck while we were going to visit someone. I found errors on each page to the point I got nauseous. The history was fictitious and the theology stood in almost direct contrast to Scripture with maybe one correct point at best. It was terrible.
The guy was also my friend and I wanted to confront him about using this terrible tract. I prayed feverishly about what to do. I felt led to let it go, which I did.
I looked into it and found many many more tracts by Chick to be just as bad or worse. I cant bring myself to even hand out the good ones because of association.
But I was turned off to them after reading "The Curse of Baphomet" tract in said Pastors truck while we were going to visit someone. I found errors on each page to the point I got nauseous. The history was fictitious and the theology stood in almost direct contrast to Scripture with maybe one correct point at best. It was terrible.
The guy was also my friend and I wanted to confront him about using this terrible tract. I prayed feverishly about what to do. I felt led to let it go, which I did.
I looked into it and found many many more tracts by Chick to be just as bad or worse. I cant bring myself to even hand out the good ones because of association.
Some are alright...the KJO stuff certainly is too much to take. The quality of the tracts come off as very "cultic" like the JW's or Mormons.
I prefer the "Good Person" tract..
http://www.livingwaters.com/index.p...ategory_id=8&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=199
I prefer the "Good Person" tract..
http://www.livingwaters.com/index.p...ategory_id=8&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=199
One of the very first things I was caused to examine after my conversion was the Chick Tracks. My very Fundamental Missionary Baptist Pastor told me that if I was ever presented with one to take it home and carefully examine and compare it to scripture in context before trashing it, that I might have a solid reason for advising folks not to use them. About a year into my walk with God I found one at my door stoop and I checked it out one evening and elt zero guilt at tossing it into File 13.
what is false teaching when it come to KJV?? THAT is wrong, it is the Word of God, and to call it false teaching is wrong.
I like some of the Chick tracts....the one from Christmastime was really good, and done in Spanish too, which was great for our bus kids to take home.
And yes, the Word of God is like a 2 edged sword. It will not return void.
I like some of the Chick tracts....the one from Christmastime was really good, and done in Spanish too, which was great for our bus kids to take home.
And yes, the Word of God is like a 2 edged sword. It will not return void.
Dr Mixer GED
Member
Chick Wrong on Repentance....
I am a Baptist that uses the KJV only in my reading, but will use other versions in study from time to time.
The biggest problem with Chick, and many other tracts, is their false teaching on repentance. They deem repentance to mean turning away from sins, which is works based salvation. The IFB, which I have identified with (albeit loosely) is guilty of this in a lot of their literature.
They do hold some truth and are bolder than most but the false repentance teaching is more than enough to trash them.
And yes, they do resemble Jehovas Witnesses materials at times.
I am a Baptist that uses the KJV only in my reading, but will use other versions in study from time to time.
The biggest problem with Chick, and many other tracts, is their false teaching on repentance. They deem repentance to mean turning away from sins, which is works based salvation. The IFB, which I have identified with (albeit loosely) is guilty of this in a lot of their literature.
They do hold some truth and are bolder than most but the false repentance teaching is more than enough to trash them.
And yes, they do resemble Jehovas Witnesses materials at times.