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Chris Christie to drop out???

Zaac

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Stealing a word from Bill O'reilly, he's a bloviator. I still believe if you're going to run for President, outside of already being Vice President, you should be required to resign from any public office.

There's just something wrong with being the CEO/Governor or Senator for a state, and instead of doing the business for which they elected you, you're soliciting for another job and not doing the work for the people who elected you.
 

777

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Well, I'm sorry to see him go, but I bet Marco Rubio isn't. Christie is doing the right thing, there is nowhere to go from here for him - Kaisach will probably bail within a couple of weeks, as will Carly and Carson. John Ellis Bush has enough money to stay in there for awhile and Rubio had better beat him from now on.

There's a debate this Saturday AGAIN and SC is Trump's to lose. Kaisach is not a threat outside of New England - he spent more time there than any other candidate. Cruz really needs a good showing in SC and NV because to me, it looks like Trump is going to run away with it.
 

Zaac

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Chris Christie suspends campaign, source says

(CNN)New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie has suspended his campaign for the Republican presidential nomination after a disappointing finish in New Hampshire, a source close to the campaign said Wednesday.

Christie made the announcement on a call with his campaign. He staked his hopes on New Hampshire, but finished sixth on Tuesday night with just 7% of the vote.

The decision marks a sudden end for someone once seen as a potential front-runner. In the wake of the 2012 election, Christie appeared poised for a strong bid for the Republican nomination -- he won a second term as the Republican governor of a blue state and led the Republican Governors Association, giving him a perch to travel the nation fundraising for other Republicans and building his stature.


But shortly after he was elected to his second term in November 2013, he was engulfed by the "Bridgegate" scandal. Emails and texts from top aides show they requested that two lanes onto the George Washington Bridge be shut down in September 2013, causing massive traffic jams in Fort Lee, New Jersey, after the town's Democratic mayor declined to endorse Christie's re-election.


A federal investigation determined that Christie had no knowledge of the decision to close the lanes, but the political damage was real. By the time he announced his bid at the end of June 2015, the damage from "Bridgegate" had many wondering whether his campaign was dead from the start.


But Donald Trump's ascendance over the summer quickly sucked the air out of the room for almost any other political narrative, including "Bridgegate."

Christie, meanwhile, embarked on a tenacious strategy focused almost exclusively on winning New Hampshire. By February 8, he had made 190 stops in New Hampshire, more than any other candidate, according to NECN's candidate tracker.


That attention to the first-in-the-nation primary state paid off in December, when Christie won the endorsement of the New Hampshire Union Leader. At the same time, he won 2016's somewhat informal mark of arrival — withering attacks from Trump.

Christie often talked of his personal experience on September 11, 2001, waiting anxiously for his wife to return from lower Manhattan. But after the terrorist attacks in Paris and San Bernardino last year, Christie began telling that personal story more, as well as playing up his experience as a federal prosecutor immediately after September 11.

But he still faced fallout among the Republican primary electorate after his warm welcoming of Obama in October 2012, after Hurricane Sandy walloped his state.


When pollster Frank Luntz replayed clips of the meeting for a focus group in New Hampshire, after the first Republican debate, Republicans in the room said they were still unhappy, three years later.

Throughout the race, Christie stood out for his blunt statements and a seeming inability to sugarcoat his assessments of the competition -- and by February, Marco Rubio was bearing the brunt of it.

As the field moved from Iowa to New Hampshire, Rubio became the star following a breakout performance in the caucuses. But many candidates, including Christie, Jeb Bush and John Kasich had pinned their hopes on New Hampshire.

Christie took to mocking Rubio's scripted style and work in Washington, calling him the "boy in the bubble" because, according to Christie, the Florida senator was too protected by staff.

In the eighth Republican debate, just a few days before the New Hampshire primary, it was Christie who knocked the air out of Rubio -- and claimed his putdown as enough to earn a ticket out of New Hampshire.

"I think the whole race changed last night. Because you know there was a march among the chattering class to anoint Sen. Rubio," Christie told Jake Tapper on CNN's "State of the Union" one day after the debate. "I think after last night, that's over. So I think there could be four or five tickets out of New Hampshire because the race is so unsettled now."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/10/politics/chris-christie-2016-election/index.html

Guess he is done.
 

steaver

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I put Rubio near the top months ago in the final shake out. He's a David up against goliaths. We'll see. It is God who raises up men into power. Whether it be men like Obama for our chastisement to wake us up or men like Reagan for our blessing.
 

blessedwife318

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Rubio's sad showing in New Hampshire does not bode well for him. It pretty much a two man race now its just a matter of how long it takes everyone else to realize that. It's between Cruz and Trump and considering that Cruz beats Trump in a head to head contest I'm really hopping that it will be him. Cruz will makes changes. Trump is the GOP version of Obama and the last thing we need after 8 years of Obama. Not to mention I still believe that Trump is a trojan Horse to get a Democrat Elected.
 

InTheLight

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Rubio is not done. He's just getting started. The robot repetitious moment will be long forgotten by next Saturday when they vote in South Carolina. It's not a two man race, not by a long shot. Jeb is going to make inroads in South Carolina. But eventually I think it will shake out to Trump, Rubio, and Cruz.

Trump is not going to "run away with it". He might win a few more states, but only because there are so many other candidates staying in the race. Trump "only" got 34% of the vote in New Hampshire, a state where he had his biggest lead in the polls. That means that 2/3's of GOP voters voted for someone else. Take away two more candidates and Trump will be fighting to win anything. I don't see him winning much of anything on Super Tuesday (March 1st) even with a bunch of candidates still in the race.
 

777

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Well, a week from this Saturday, I'm going to attend the caucus here and I have no idea who I am going to go for - I will play it by ear but I wouldn't doubt if Trump doesn't win, since the state resembles NH far more than it does Iowa when it comes to primaries.

I'm not saying that Trump is unstoppable, because he is, but the other candidates are going to have to figure out a way. And 34% is a big deal if you consider there's all these other people in the race - by that logic, 90% didn't vote for Rubio, therefore he's in a weakened position, and he is.

Where will Trump falter on Super Tuesday? All I can see is that he'll be beat by Cruz over in Texas, but he's only six points behind there. And South Carolina? Double-digit lead, killer ground game, open primary, little time left and that will add up to an easy Trump win there. Florida will be the best bet for Rubio or someone to stop him if this course has a chance of being reversed.
 

Rippon

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C.C. will probably end up in Trump's cabinet. Donald likes him.

Trump will pick up all 99 delegates on March 15.
 

evangelist6589

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I put Rubio near the top months ago in the final shake out. He's a David up against goliaths. We'll see. It is God who raises up men into power. Whether it be men like Obama for our chastisement to wake us up or men like Reagan for our blessing.

Or men like Bernie Sanders for our punishment.
 

Zaac

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Fox News made the Donald Trump Frankenstein and now that he's out of their control, nobody knows what to do.Roflmao
 

InTheLight

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Where will Trump falter on Super Tuesday?

Trump will not win:
Arkansas
Alaska
Colorado
Minnesota
Oklahoma
Tennessee
Texas


He might win Alabama, not a sure thing, though.
He might win Georgia, but he wouldn't if it were a three man race.
He might win Virginia.

He should win Massachusetts. Kasich will also do well there. However, Trump winning here doesn't mean much because Massachusetts will go Dem in the general election.

So, one sure win, three maybes, and seven noes. Do you consider losing seven out of eleven states to be faltering? I do.
 
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FriendofSpurgeon

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Trump will not win:
Arkansas
Alaska
Colorado
Minnesota
Oklahoma
Tennessee
Texas


He might win Alabama, not a sure thing, though.
He might win Georgia, but he wouldn't if it were a three man race.
He might win Virginia.

He should win Massachusetts. Kasich will also do well there. However, Trump winning here doesn't mean much because Massachusetts will go Dem in the general election.

So, one sure win, three maybes, and seven noes. Do you consider losing seven out of eleven states to be faltering? I do.

Pretty much agree. Not sure how he (as a major owner and supporter of casinos) could possibly lose in Nevada.

However, I wonder how South Carolina will come out -- even though Trump has a large lead in the most recent polls. The fact that it is an open primary should help Trump, as he tends to bring in independents. However, his use of "colorful language" (to be nice) in New Hampshire should not endear himself to the very large block of social conservatives in the state. (Wonder if Jerry Jr. still supports him???) As a result, I think Cruz will do very well there -- and may even overtake him. Here, I think it will be a two man race.

The race for #3 will probably be between Jeb and Marco. Marco may pick up some of the social conservative votes as well. While he is Catholic, he also attends an evangelical church and is very open about his faith. I expect him to do well, assuming he doesn't falter in the next debate. Don't know if Jeb's brother will help or not -- if so, it could propel him to #3, but probably not much higher. Kasich should probably focus elsewhere.
 

Revmitchell

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I'm glad Christie is gone. Him and Jeb and Rubio are all good little establishment candidates. I'm sure they are all doing exactly as their handlers are telling them too.
 

InTheLight

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Pretty much agree. Not sure how he (as a major owner and supporter of casinos) could possibly lose in Nevada.

I concede Trump will probably win Nevada. Not many delegates to be had here. Like Massachusetts this is a blue state that the GOP nominee will not carry in November.

However, I wonder how South Carolina will come out -- even though Trump has a large lead in the most recent polls. The fact that it is an open primary should help Trump, as he tends to bring in independents. However, his use of "colorful language" (to be nice) in New Hampshire should not endear himself to the very large block of social conservatives in the state. As a result, I think Cruz will do very well there -- and may even overtake him. Here, I think it will be a two man race.

South Carolina is definitely way different than New Hampshire. There are a lot more evangelicals and the minority population is over 40% of the state.

The race for #3 will probably be between Jeb and Marco. Marco may pick up some of the social conservative votes as well. While he is Catholic, he also attends an evangelical church and is very open about his faith. I expect him to do well, assuming he doesn't falter in the next debate. Don't know if Jeb's brother will help or not -- if so, it could propel him to #3, but probably not much higher. Kasich should probably focus elsewhere.

I think race for number #3 will be between Cruz and Jeb. I've heard Rubio give his testimony and was impressed.
 
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