Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour! 3

[Silverhair]

Im witnessing to you the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and see your response

NO BF you are not. You are witnessing a false gospel that stops at His death as you have people saved at the cross and neglect the resurrection.

This is the gospel BF.

1Co 15:1 Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, and in which you stand firm.
1Co 15:2 By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
1Co 15:3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,
1Co 15:4 that He was buried, that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,

As Paul said and you continue to deny
1Co 15:17 And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins.

 

[Brightfame52]

Why? “So that we might die to sins and live for righteousness.”

Correct, His Death causes that. Them He died for will live unto righteousness, they will become believers.

 

[Silverhair]

Yes it does. His death/stripes brings about our salvation.

I showed you what a commentator said here



The healing is a result of this 1 Pet 2:24

24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

If thats not your Gospel, you have a false gospel

BF you are trusting the words of a man I am trusting the words of God.

 

[Brightfame52]

NO BF you are not.

Yes I am and you resist it, not good

 

[Silverhair]

Correct, His Death causes that. Them He died for will live unto righteousness, they will become believers.

BF not everyone Christ died for will become believers.

He died to cover the sins of humanity not just a select group as you think.

 

[Brightfame52]

BF you are trusting the words of a man I am trusting the words of God.

You are rejecting the Gospel of the Saving death of Christ, being witnessed to you by men. God sends men to preach His Gospel. Do you believe that ?

 

[Brightfame52]

BF not everyone Christ died for will become believers.

Yes they will, 1 Pet 2:24 shows you that. They will live unto righteousness

 

[Silverhair]

Yes I am and you resist it, not good

BF your own words show you are not. I have shown you the words of God and you reject them and hold to the words of man.

 

[Silverhair]

You are rejecting the Gospel of the Saving death of Christ, being witnessed to you by men. God sends men to preach His Gospel. Do you believe that ?

Of course God has sent men too preach. But not all men preach the truth do they BF.

But the question is why do you continue to reject the word of God as found in scripture?

The death of Christ covered man's sins the life of Christ made salvation possible through faith in the risen Christ.

 

[Silverhair]

Yes they will, 1 Pet 2:24 shows you that. They will live unto righteousness

Read that verse again BF.

1Pe 2:24 He Himself bore our sins in His body on the tree, so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness.

That is conditional BF. Just the same as what God said in Joh 3:17 "For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.
Is all the world saved BF? All the world might be saved but it is only those that will freely trust in Him that will be saved.

 

[Brightfame52]

BF your own words show you are not. I have shown you the words of God and you reject them and hold to the words of man.

You are rejecting the words of a man preaching Gods Gospel to you

 

[Brightfame52]

Of course God has sent men too preach

Okay and you are rejecting the witness of men who preach to you the Gospel of Jesus Christ, so in essence you rejecting Christ.

 

[Brightfame52]

Read that verse again BF.

Im preaching it to you. Christs death actually causes them He died for to live unto God, thats what healing does. It converts to God. Faith comes with conversion. See His death saved them from the consequences of sin, it reconciled them to God, which means it causes Faith in God

Peter just wrote in the 1 st chapter 1 Pet 1:21

21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.

 

[Silverhair]

You are rejecting the words of a man preaching Gods Gospel to you

BF I put them in the proper order. I trust the word of God then the word of man. They are not of equal importance.

 

[Silverhair]

Okay and you are rejecting the witness of men who preach to you the Gospel of Jesus Christ, so in essence you rejecting Christ.

How is rejecting the word of man rejecting Christ.

I trust the word of God as found in scripture.

You on the other hand trust the word of man which is not found in scripture.

 

[Silverhair]

Im preaching it to you. Christs death actually causes them He died for to live unto God, thats what healing does. It converts to God. Faith comes with conversion. See His death saved them from the consequences of sin, it reconciled them to God, which means it causes Faith in God

Peter just wrote in the 1 st chapter 1 Pet 1:21

21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.

Then your preaching is false.

When you deny the word of God why would you expect anyone to follow what you say?

You have been shown clear scripture that proves your view is wrong and you still post your errant views and call them truth. It would seem you are one of the false teachers that we were warned would come in the last times.

 

[Charlie24]

Then your preaching is false.

When you deny the word of God why would you expect anyone to follow what you say?

You have been shown clear scripture that proves your view is wrong and you still post your errant views and call them truth. It would seem you are one of the false teachers that we were warned would come in the last times.

It's truly sad that he's so confused on the Atonement.

You would think it nearly impossible for this to happen but the false teachings he has received knows no bounds.

 

[37818]

Healed in 1 Pet 2:24 does not mean saved BF.

Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose | stripe | ye were healed.

I have to agree with BF regarding 1 Peter 2:24 being regarding salvation.

 

[Silverhair]

Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose | stripe | ye were healed.

I have to agree with BF regarding 1 Peter 2:24 being regarding salvation.

@37818 if you had read through his posts you would see that he thinks it is the death of Christ that saves us. His atonement made salvation possible but we are saved because of our faith in the risen Christ. BF stops short of that truth.

Rom 5:10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.

 

[37818]

@37818 if you had read through his posts you would see that he thinks it is the death of Christ that saves us. His atonement made salvation possible but we are saved because of our faith in the risen Christ. BF stops short of that truth.

Rom 5:10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.

It is the resurrection that is proof of His shed blood for our sins.