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Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour! 3

Silverhair

Silverhair

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BF you are preaching from your calvinist philosophy so you have lost from the start.

Your philosophy is based on pagan philosophy that is anti-biblical.

You can continue to hold to it or you can actually trust the written word of God but not both.

I have shown you what the bible says and you continue to deny it so I will just leave you to your errant views.
 
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Brightfame52

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Silverhair said:
So no one dies? That would be a surprise to a great many people BF.
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Yes people still dies physically. Lest they alive when Christ returns, however since Christ has abolished death for them, they are made alive spiritually in this life, and they never die the 2nd death. Your church never taught you that ?
 
Silverhair

Silverhair

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Brightfame52 said:
Thats big time error to base Salvation from sin on race, ethnicity
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BF you continue to prove you cannot be that bright. How many times do I have to post salvation is through faith in the risenChristB4 you actually believe it.

But then you are a bit of a troll so your comments do not surprise me.
 
Silverhair

Silverhair

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Brightfame52 said:
Yes people still dies physically. Lest they alive when Christ returns, however since Christ has abolished death for them, they are made alive spiritually in this life, and they never die the 2nd death. Your church never taught you that ?
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Born once died twice, born twice die once.

Have you never been taught that we are saved by grace through faith in the risen Christ?
 
Silverhair

Silverhair

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Brightfame52 said:
You implied it since when I showed you Matt 1:21 you indicated thats for jews. Do you mean ethnic jews ? Yes or no
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“His people” (Mat_1:21), “My people Israel” (Mat_2:6) and “the house of Jacob” (Luk_1:33) references ethnic Jews.

Or do you think it means something else?

Dave Hunt explains: “‘His people’ is found 150 times in the Old Testament. Most often the phrase means Israel or physically related; never does it mean Calvinism’s elect. It occurs nine times in the New Testament; eight times it means Israel (Mat_1:21; Luk_1:68, Luk_1:77; Rom_11:1-2, Rom_15:10; Heb_10:30) and one time the redeemed (Rev_21:3).”

Citing John Calvin as a “hostile witness,” even he argued that Mat_1:21 referenced ethnic Jews:

“By Christ’s people the angel unquestionably means the Jews, to whom he was appointed as Head and King; but as the Gentiles were shortly afterwards to be ingrafted into the stock of Abraham, (Rom_11:17,) this promise of salvation is extended indiscriminately to all who are incorporated by faith in the “one body” (1Co_12:20) of the Church.” Calvin cmtx
 
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Brightfame52

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Silverhair said:
BF you continue to prove you cannot be that bright.
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Insults wont help u , You believe the promise that Christ Jesus shall save His People from their sins, only applies to blood jews of israel. So thats salvation promised based on ethnicity, u believe like the hypocrite jews of Jesus time believed.
 
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Brightfame52

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Silverhair said:
His people” (Mat_1:21), “My people Israel” (Mat_2:6) and “the house of Jacob” (Luk_1:33) references ethnic Jews.
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Okay so you base Salvation from sin on being a ethnic jew. Thats a denial of Grace and makes God a respecter of persons in salvation.
Silverhair said:
Or do you think it means something else?
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His People is His Church Eph 5:25ff

25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
 
Silverhair

Silverhair

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Brightfame52 said:
Insults wont help u , You believe the promise that Christ Jesus shall save His People from their sins, only applies to blood jews of israel. So thats salvation promised based on ethnicity, u believe like the hypocrite jews of Jesus time believed.
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Not insults BF just [pointing out the obvious. You do not even remember what I have stated more than once.

Mat 1:21 "She will bear a Son; and you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins." What does that verse say BF?

What does this verse say BF?

Gal 3:26 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.

We are not Jews or Jacob or Israel until we are in Christ through faith. You keep denying this BF.
 
Silverhair

Silverhair

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Brightfame52 said:
Yes. But your faith is Jesus Christ Death didnt save anyone. My Faith is Jesus Christ by His Death saved me.
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The bible disagrees with your BF as I have shown you over and over.

Rom 5:10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.

Why will you not trust the word of God?
 
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