Correct. When he sees his need = regeneration. Since the natural man cannot understand the things of God
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Correct. When he sees his need = regeneration. Since the natural man cannot understand the things of God
Man can understand when the Holy Spirit breaks through that total depravity with the hearing of the Gospel and conviction.
Man will accept that truth or reject it, there is no middle ground.
When God changes the heart of man in regeneration, we will believe the Gospel 1000,000% of the time
That's the purpose of hearing the Gospel and the Holy Spirit convicting of sin, judgment, and righteousness.
It's meant to for man to understand he needs a change of heart. He needs to see things God's way.
The Spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.
I Cor. The natural man understands not the things of God
Brightfame52
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Man can't come to Christ Jn 6 44 65
The natural man is the unsaved man, he can't come to Christ without the draw of hearing the Gospel and the conviction of the Holy Spirit.
We see that it is a rewxie mission feom God
Salvation is something He does to us and for us
Salvation is something He does to us and for us
Rescue mission
Nor a vote for either or
Nor a vote for either or
He can when God draws him with the Gospel and conviction.
He has the choice to believe God's Gospel or deny it.
The ones who choose to believe God's Gospel are the ones "I will raise up at the last day."
In vs 45, Christ said, "Every man therefore who has heard, and has learned of the Father, comes unto Me."
If the Jews Christ was speaking to really knew the Father in the OT Law, they would also recognize Christ and accept Him.
Silverhair
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So after.
Silverhair
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Why is God a failure?
Why do you disagree with the Holy Spirit?
1Ti 2:3 This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
1Ti 2:4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Silverhair
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Where do you come up with these odd comments?
Salvation is not a reward but it is by grace through faith
Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith;
Brightfame52
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Drawing is the application of salvation
Well not all men are being saved, so God is not successful according to you in seeing His perfecr plan completed
Therefore, He is an imperfect God for what touu say you believe
For what you say you believe, Salvation is a reward for believing the Gospel not a work of Gods grace whereby God freely justifies sinners
The Bible teaches that Gods perfect will is always completed including the area of salvation
Were Abram, Jeremiah Paul, the Disciples etc called by God? Yes indeed they were with certainty of salvation. God was not held hostage by their supposed free will unsure of what they would supposedly determine on their own
He is not a God of uncertainty where He does not know the future or workout the future for His glory
He called Abram, and he followed, He called Samuel, and Samuel followed; He called the disciples, and they followed; he called Paul, and Paul followed
Were Abram, Jeremiah Paul, the Disciples etc called by God? Yes indeed they were with certainty of salvation. God was not held hostage by their supposed free will unsure of what they would supposedly determine on their own
He is not a God of uncertainty where He does not know the future or workout the future for His glory
He called Abram, and he followed, He called Samuel, and Samuel followed; He called the disciples, and they followed; he called Paul, and Paul followed
Romans 1:7. Christians are called by God to be Saints (christians)
I Cor 1:2, again Paul uses the phrase called to be Saints.
We are called by God to salvation, faith or believing. It truly is a work wrought by God for His glory
He is the Lord, He does this for us as we are helpless to save ourselves or to honor Him fully without His grace
I Cor 1:2, again Paul uses the phrase called to be Saints.
We are called by God to salvation, faith or believing. It truly is a work wrought by God for His glory
He is the Lord, He does this for us as we are helpless to save ourselves or to honor Him fully without His grace
When we pray for the salvation of friends and family and even enemies, we know for certain that God can and will truly save them as He desires regardless of their estate
We know that God answers the prayers of His people and even places those desires within our hearts that we might behold the work of God in salvation and truly marvel at His work
We know that God answers the prayers of His people and even places those desires within our hearts that we might behold the work of God in salvation and truly marvel at His work
Salvation is truly a work of God which can never be undone (its where the idea of perseverance of the saints) comes from
In the free will model. If its up to the will of man what happens if someone changes their mind if they decide that they dont want to be saved anymore?
Do they lose their salvation?
Salvation is eternal. According to Paul, we are justified freely by His grace
In the free will model. If its up to the will of man what happens if someone changes their mind if they decide that they dont want to be saved anymore?
Do they lose their salvation?
Salvation is eternal. According to Paul, we are justified freely by His grace