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Christian Apologetics: Knowing Our Enemy Called the Scientific Worldview

Yeshua1

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You are making a blanket statement. You need to get to know some scientists. There are plenty of scientists who are people who subscribe to a faith tradition, as well as many Christians.

One of the big obstacles to scientists breaking free of naturalism and empirical rationalism is that Christians stupidly claim that a person has to make a choice between believing science or believing the Bible. So some scientists, knowing that science is quite reliable in making predictions, reject the Bible and the anti-intellectual Christianity that they have seen demonstrated.
What often happens though is that so called scientific facts overrules inspired scripture, such as when we get theistic evolution and fake global warming!
 

gb93433

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I was agreeing until this point. Scripture tells us to expose lies, particularly those of false teachers.

There's a saying, "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." It's actually biblical at its core. Jesus and the Apostles pointed out false teachings and lies often. It's an act of love.

Paul talked about the war on truth and the importances of exposing lies, even demolishing them.

2Cor. 10:3 For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does. 4 The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. 5 We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.​
I am not sure on what point you disagree with me.

From what I see almost the entire church in America has been living a lie in contrast to what Jesus did and taught concerning making disciples and teaching them to observe all he commanded . Later Paul wrote in 2 Timothy 2:2 that we are to teach others in such a way they can teach others who teach others to do all Jesus commanded. Where are the faithful men in our churches who are spiritual reproducers going into the world reaching others and training them. Most teachers and pastors stand up in front and give an explanation of some passage in the Bible but how many are training men as Jesus did?
 

gb93433

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I respectfully disagree.

Also, I have almost a Masters in Theology, so this is the kind of stuff I am expected to write and research at this point in my academic career. At least if I want a good grade. I was also an atheist who believed strongly in the superiority of science and secularism, before I became a Believer. So, I do have a lot of personal experience with secular thought.
My point is that you know nothing about physics then don't spend your time debating a physicist using physics because you don't have that in common with him. You must find a point in which you have common ground like Jesus did when he dealt with the Pharisees and the Sadducees. Their beliefs were different. Each of them agreed on at least one thing and that is what Jesus used.

Doing research and debating are two different things. If you debate a scientist you are not going to use scientific research to explanation the origin of evil.

A few weeks ago I was talking with a man who is retired from NASA. He told me science explains everything. As theologians we know it explains very little. As I spoke with him I realized he was not a scientist but had worked in imagery. At one point I asked him to explain evil. We agreed that evil exists and he had no answer for an explanation of evil.
 

Yeshua1

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My point is that you know nothing about physics then don't spend your time debating a physicist using physics because you don't have that in common with him. You must find a point in which you have common ground like Jesus did when he dealt with the Pharisees and the Sadducees. Their beliefs were different. Each of them agreed on at least one thing and that is what Jesus used.

Doing research and debating are two different things. If you debate a scientist you are not going to use scientific research to explanation the origin of evil.

A few weeks ago I was talking with a man who is retired from NASA. He told me science explains everything. As theologians we know it explains very little. As I spoke with him I realized he was not a scientist but had worked in imagery. At one point I asked him to explain evil. We agreed that evil exists and he had no answer for an explanation of evil.
It is really hard to do that with secular scientific mindset folks, as they have the same factual evidence as Christians do for their support, and yet refuse to see them in any other fashion other than evolutionary!
 
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