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Christian Dance Music?

Discussion in 'Music Ministry' started by gekko, May 13, 2006.

  1. gekko

    gekko New Member

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    i love the music andy hunter puts out!

    along with "The Echoing Green" i believe that's the name and "Ultrabeat" is good praise techno.
     
  2. standingfirminChrist

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    Just listened to a sound clip from the song 'Angelic' off of Andy Hunter's 'Exodus' album.

    You don't hear any singing, just the rock beat and some female voice oohing and ahhhing. Why?

    Because the music is what the people are looking for. If it were the lyrics, they would have put actual singing in the clip.

    This was off of christiantoday.com site.

    Just goes to prove my point even more. They want to appeal to the flesh, so they give you the music.
     
  3. gekko

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    i love how you cherry pick SFIC
     
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    I love how God reveals the truth to me about the worldly music. You may call it cherry picking if you want, but I will not compromise my walk with God to please the flesh.
     
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    did you listen to any other songs that actually have lyrics SFIC?

    didn't you know that electronic music usually doesn't have that much lyrics to it?
     
  6. JamieinNH

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    Thanks for the audio samples. I really enjoyed them. I need find out where I can buy their CD.

    I love dance music, although I usally end up dancing with myself. :), I love the energy it gives me, plus it's a good workout.

    I also listen to some clips from the John Buller - Broken Drum CD and I like that alot too.


    Thanks again for sharing!

    Jamie
     
  7. gekko

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    how about some of this Electronica/Dance music?
    its amazing stuff - hes jewish you know. messianic jew. its his style of praise music.

    http://www.aviadcohen.com
     
  8. Joshua Rhodes

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    Because it's an instrumental track. There are no lyrics for that song. So I suppose Michael W. Smith's instrumental album "Freedom" which is almost purely orchestral is wrong too? :rolleyes:

    Thanks for telling us what they want. You're a mindreader now?
     
  9. standingfirminChrist

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    Not a mindreader, no. But am able to discern that which is of God and that which is not of God.

    And that music is definitely not of God.

    Funny, you say it is all instrumental, another says it has some lyrics. Wonder which of you is misinformed?
     
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    haha... just because it says "go" through out the whole song? they are being decieved?

    and who ever said they were going to bring it into the youth ministry? its for personal use.

    this would not be played in the church for worship. who ever said it was?

    why is it that when the subject of music comes up - its always a matter of "is it acceptable to play in the church?"

    why does it always have to be like that? no. i am talking about personally listening to this type of music.

    its nice to see a know-it-all when it comes to discernment...
    nobody can discern fully.
     
  12. standingfirminChrist

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    gekko,

    Have you not been reading the posts? JR said he uses Andy Hunter's music in his youth ministry.
     
  13. Joshua Rhodes

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    Yep, upon further review, that's exactly what I said... SOME of his music in our videos... A FEW of the tracks for background music.

    Actually... if you'll read back, you'll notice I said the track in question (at that time) "Angelic" was instrumental. I said "Because it's an instrumental track. There are no lyrics for that song."

    I would ask "how dare you?" but then what would be the point? You're not going to change your stance, and you'll probably question more than just my methods of youth ministry next. You are not the standard I hold my kids or myself up to. You act like we use this as worship to head-bang to or something. I USE IT FOR BACKGROUND TO VIDEO EDITING.

    The truth is, and if you'll read VERY closely, you'll get this and not misquote me: I DON'T EVEN LIKE IT. But the kids do. Personally, I think it's tripe... although I understand better these days the level of musicianship and technical expertise behind such music. Does it change my opinion? Not much. Do I listen to this CD in my car as I'm driving down the road? NO! But the kids love it, and it's uniquely suited for what I use it for. So we use it there. No dancing, not even movement to the beat. Just background music.

    By the way, you never did answer this question SFIC -

    Actually... don't answer me. I'll just agree to disagree. Thanks for playing.
     
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    Michael W. Smith appeases the Catholic faith and sings mainly to such. Very few of his songs mention Jesus, so yes, I would have a problem with his music.

    You say you do not even like Andy Hunter's music, but you use it for video editing? Am I reading into that wrong?

    James said a double-minded man is... Oh never mind, you don't care about that.
     
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    SFIC -

    I care more than you think I do. Yes I use it for video, and no I don't listen to it in my car for pleasure. So? This makes me double-minded? And an instrumental album doesn't mention Jesus at all. This makes it wrong? By the way, one of the songs is an arrangement of "Thy Word". Still think it's wrong? Oh wait, I know you do... why ask?
     
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    "I don't like the music, but the kids love it."

    That is like saying I don't like pot, but I know the teens love it so I will provide it for them.

    Bad analogy? I think not. Both are things that please the flesh and do nothing to bring glory to God.
     
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    it seems to me that SFIC is looking on the outside of things... he still hasn't denied that ya know... and i've mentioned it more then twice...
     
  18. Joshua Rhodes

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    You don't get it, and that's fine. Glad to say that even though I disagree almost completely with you, if you serve my God, that makes you my brother. Suffice it to say, I wouldn't even know what pot looks like, let alone provide it for the students in my care. You have proven to me that you have no clue what the real issue here is. And I would love to educate you, but 1) you wouldn't listen, 2) you wouldn't care, and 3) I just don't have the time. I've got a retreat weekend planned for my World Changers kids. So bash me as I leave, I don't care. I'm done with this.
     
  19. gekko

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    its not the music that makes it secular - its the lyrics.

    lets switch the game and say that Nirvana never had a song or the tune of "smells like teen spirit" - lets say a group such as audio adrenaline or sonic flood had that song - named different - but same exact tune. taking into consideration there is no other song like it. and there were biblical lyrics to it.

    would it be a christian song?
     
  20. standingfirminChrist

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    No! The rock style music is a message that feeds the flesh whether one puts gospel lyrics to it or not.

    One could put the words of a scripture straight from the Bible in the song as lyrics and it would still be rock and roll and compromising. Walking with Christ on one hand and the devil on the other.
     
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