Christian Democrat

[saturneptune]

That's a leap.

Now you're being ridiculous.

And it is good to see that you now agree you're whining and complaining. If you want us to stop "messing in your lives" (this is really rich:laugh: ), elect leaders that will see that we do.

You don't have any say in our election.

Thats a fact. I could care less what someone outside our country thinks about our internal politics. It would be like me keeping up with the royal family, totally insignificant to the United States.

 

[JustChristian]

Can you tell me as a Christian how your worldview through your eyes matches up with Obama?

McCain is not the exact man I want for the job, but he does stand for those things that I and ALL Christians should stand for. Palin also stands for those things.

The Right to Life
Against Homosexual Marriages
Palin believes that there is one way to heaven, Obama believes, like Oprah that there are many avenues to heaven other than Christ.

If Obama is not a Muslim, he is a supporter of their religion, by action and financially. He has financed and assisted with the Muslims in Kenya, supporting the overthrowing of their current government which has lead to the death of thousands of Christians. He rubs elbows with those who hate the Jew, his actions show he shares a bond with them.

Bush stated in public twice that there are more than one way to heaven. I'll bet you voted for him as a "Christian" candidate. Are you going to be fooled for the third tim,e in a row? Or do you really care and just blindly vote Republican?

 

[JustChristian]

Can you tell me as a Christian how your worldview through your eyes matches up with Obama?

McCain is not the exact man I want for the job, but he does stand for those things that I and ALL Christians should stand for. Palin also stands for those things.

The Right to Life
Against Homosexual Marriages
Palin believes that there is one way to heaven, Obama believes, like Oprah that there are many avenues to heaven other than Christ.

If Obama is not a Muslim, he is a supporter of their religion, by action and financially. He has financed and assisted with the Muslims in Kenya, supporting the overthrowing of their current government which has lead to the death of thousands of Christians. He rubs elbows with those who hate the Jew, his actions show he shares a bond with them.

Do you have any interest in evangelism? By calling only Republican Christian and Democrats damned you automatically can forget about reaching half of the population. Is winning an election worth throwing away half of your Christian witness? I don't think so but you can determine that for yourself.

 

[just-want-peace]

By calling only Republican Christian and Democrats damned you automatically can forget about reaching half of the population. Is winning an election worth throwing away half of your Christian witness?

Since you quoted SGW in your post, I must believe that these comments from you refer to that post - is that correct??

If so, how in thunderation did you derive "your" analysis from "his" post????

If not, where did SGW say such as you have accused him of?

Seriously, your "OBAMA" glasses are really cramping your reading comprehension; you better get your prescription changed ASAP 'fore you reall screw something up.

 

[rbell]

Bush stated in public twice that there are more than one way to heaven. I'll bet you voted for him as a "Christian" candidate. Are you going to be fooled for the third tim,e in a row?

I'm sorry, but my ballot here in AL doesn't have George W. Bush on it.

Perhaps you're using an older ballot, or word hasn't gotten to you yet.

He can't run this year.

 

[JustChristian]

Since you quoted SGW in your post, I must believe that these comments from you refer to that post - is that correct??

If so, how in thunderation did you derive "your" analysis from "his" post????

If not, where did SGW say such as you have accused him of?

Seriously, your "OBAMA" glasses are really cramping your reading comprehension; you better get your prescription changed ASAP 'fore you reall screw something up.

Here's his post. These comments refer specifically to this election but I've heard them since the formation of the "Christian" Right. How could you vote for a Democrat? Everyone who is a Christian votes Republican.

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Can you tell me as a Christian how your worldview through your eyes matches up with Obama?

McCain is not the exact man I want for the job, but he does stand for those things that I and ALL Christians should stand for. Palin also stands for those things.

Comprendre?

 

[JustChristian]

I'm sorry, but my ballot here in AL doesn't have George W. Bush on it.

Perhaps you're using an older ballot, or word hasn't gotten to you yet.

He can't run this year.

Did you vote for him twice as the "Christian" candidate?

 

[JustChristian]

Thats a fact. I could care less what someone outside our country thinks about our internal politics. It would be like me keeping up with the royal family, totally insignificant to the United States.

Well, then I suppose you don't support America sticking its nose (and soldiers) into the affairs of other countries affairs? Like Iraq for example.

 

[Revmitchell]

Well, then I suppose you don't support America sticking its nose (and soldiers) into the affairs of other countries affairs? Like Iraq for example.

When Iraq invades another smaller country we should all care.

 

[Matt Black]

Isn't it ironic that the same countries which express this sentiment now, are the same ones the seek America's help in time of need?

Fact is, you should be thankful that the world's most powerful nation uses their power for good. No, we are not perfect and we have done some wrong at times, but stop and think if the only superpower were in the hands of one of the Islamic states or even Russia. And that's just looking at it from the governmental side. You also need to consider the private side - how American citizens provide billions and billions in charity here and all over the world. Bottom line, if America didn't exist as we know it today, this world would be much worse off.

Hmmm...except it doesn't quite work like that, does it? If I for example take a homeless hobo out for a three-course meal, that doesn't give me the right to subsequently kick him in the head next time I'm passing and then call him a whiner when he complains about my conduct or give him a lecture on how he should be grateful for the meal, does it?

 

[Matt Black]

Perhaps Matt is unaware that a Judge in OH has made it legal for homeless people to list a park bench or overpass as their "address" and regster to vote in that state, so he's not grasping your meaning. Matt, the point is that since this judge took it upon himself to approve an non-address as an address he has opened up the entire election process to voter fraud. Even you, a citizen of the UK, could list an OH park bench as your address and register to vote in our elections.

Thanks for that; I'd managed to get the cheese reference (to the French) but not the park bench - I agree the latter is a disastrous recipe for electoral fraud, which is bad enough anywhere, but in a swing state? It'll make the hanging chads of Florida look like child's play in comparison...Don't worry, I'm not about to take up Carpro's invitation to participate in such a scam!

 

[Matt Black]

Pray tell, name one specific way that Americans are "messing in" the lives of Britains.

Oh, for one, getting us involved in the quagmire of Iraq for spurious reasons (yes, I know our Prime Minister took the decision as far as the UK was concerned, but that decision was largely based on US 'intelligence' which turned out to be bogus).

 

[Matt Black]

When Iraq invades another smaller country we should all care.

We already did that - in 1991. Iraq didn't invade anywhere in 2003; we invaded Iraq.

 

[ShotGunWillie]

We already did that - in 1991. Iraq didn't invade anywhere in 2003; we invaded Iraq.

And why did we invade Iraq?

 

[ShotGunWillie]

Well, then I suppose you don't support America sticking its nose (and soldiers) into the affairs of other countries affairs? Like Iraq for example.

The Iraq War was the choice of Republicans only, you can't speak on this subject.

 

[Revmitchell]

We already did that - in 1991. Iraq didn't invade anywhere in 2003; we invaded Iraq.

Sigh.... they broke the peace treaty we were under for 12 years. Check your facts.

 

[ShotGunWillie]

Do you have any interest in evangelism? By calling only Republican Christian and Democrats damned you automatically can forget about reaching half of the population. Is winning an election worth throwing away half of your Christian witness? I don't think so but you can determine that for yourself.

Why don't you answer my question or are you above explaining how your views and BHO's views align as a Christian?

I think there is a good portion of Democrats that are Dems in name only. There are a lot of good southern Democrats that vote that way just because their parents and their grandparents did. They don't dig into politics, they just check the box.

You on the other hand have dug into the beliefs of whom you support and you are still supporting him, do you have any interest in evangelism? Because by telling people you support Barack Obama as a Christian you have lost credibility. Just because others claim he is the Messiah, doesn't mean he really is. He could be the Mahdi (Muslim Messiah) or anti-christ.

 

[ShotGunWillie]

Bush stated in public twice that there are more than one way to heaven. I'll bet you voted for him as a "Christian" candidate. Are you going to be fooled for the third tim,e in a row? Or do you really care and just blindly vote Republican?

Care to site these claims or just make them up........

 

[Matt Black]

And why did we invade Iraq?

The stated reason was that Saddam had WMDs and was thus in breach of the UN Resolution requiring him to disarm. Turns out the WMD rumour was false, which leads me to strongly suspect that there were other motives at play. YMMV of course

 

[Matt Black]

Sigh.... they broke the peace treaty we were under for 12 years. Check your facts.

I refer you to my reply given to the honourable gentleman (SGW) above.