Christian left ?

Now Now Bro Curtis...

When I was new, we didn't get along on some topics... but over time, everyone learns about everyone and then the real debates can start.

Take care my friend,

Jamie

 

Well I agree with you on this count and pretty much everyone considers me a liberal. Personally it is more about specific issues than being conservative or liberal. If you notice when I quoted you took out abortion all together. Anyway, now I guess you can say "every liberal except one". JK :laugh:

 

Again I agree, although I don't believe this means Jesus would support capitalism. Even in communist or socialist societies people HAVE to work or the society would collapse. I'm just not sure I see a correllation here.

 

Even if you subscribe to the view that Christians should not have works with people currently in the global warming movement, what is to stop Christians from forming their own "global warming movement", one that incorporates Christian teaching? Are we to ignore something just because it was first brought up by an atheist or evolutionist? I don't buy this at all. I think Citizen posted some great verses that sometimes get lost in this particular debate. God will supply all of our needs, but same as the birth control debate, shouldn't part of that supplying include us using the common sense God gave us? I just cannot see Christ dismissing entire issues because they are also championed by atheists and the like. This could very well be another avenue in which lost souls can be reached.

 

Would this fit in here?
Christians and Scientists join to fight Global Warming
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,243801,00.html

 

This is a circular argument.

Who or what is "the far right Christians movement?" Please define.

How is it like the Pharisees?

 

Hi, BiR! Yes, I know it's been unusually warm in this area for awhile. But meanwhile, Denver has had 3 blizzards, there is ice in the midwest (at least one airport closed out there somewhere), and there is snow in many parts of the country.

I think there are too many generalized terms used here on the BB (especially in Politics) - not just from you but from everyone. I not only was a tree-hugger but also an animal rights activist before I was saved. I still love animals and the environment, and I agree we should not be cavalier and disgregard damage to either. However, there is a certain mindset in the environmental crowd that I am not sure most Chrisitans are aware of.

I think we need to realize what a "tree hugger" might mean to some people. Most activist environmentalists see man as a blot on the earth in the sense that the earth not only is equal to man, but superior. Many see the earth as alive with a consciousness (this came from the Gaia hypothesis that came out in the 70's although Locke said he was not saying this explicitly).

This environmentalism has found a spirituality in Matthew Fox's creation spirituality in which he espouses that Christ came to save the earth (not in the sense of redemption in Rom 8). He also believes in a Christ spirit and that all of us can be "christs." He's a special kind of New Ager although he is an Episcopal priest (former Catholic).

But there is also earth spirtuality among Neopagans. And there is "deep ecology."

So I think we need to be careful when we want to join forces with environmentallists and be careful about their agenda and their spiritual views. Behind all the love for the earth (among some environmentalists) is a very deep darkness. And Satan would love for this to infiltrate the church - he's already succeeding in other areas. (To clarify - I do not mean that the church can be defeated as I am well aware that Christ is the head of the church and said that it could not be defeated by the enemy).

I could say a lot more, having had years in the kind of thinking I'm seeing becoming more common now, but the post would be too long.

 

He, Jesus, would stand with you in these examples.

 

Don't be silly. If you really feel this way, what are you doing on this thread?

 

I wasn't implying you were dumb, nor was I trying to accuse you. I was reacalling a specific argument in the BC debate. Sorry, should have worded it differently. I simply meant that I believe it is possible to win souls and at the same time protect our environment. Witnessing to the lost should be our primary concern, but I don't think it is grounds to negate our responsibilty of being stewards of the earth God gave us.

 

Just because you say so, doesn't mean it's true. And it's a lousy comparison anyway.

 

Upon what do you base your allegation?

 

And then Christ selected a Pharisee to spread his Gospel to the Gentiles.

So go ahead and tell me what Christ really thought about Pharisees.

What you intended as an insult is no insult at all. The Bible tells us that "Pharisees" who become Christians become the strongest of advocates for the Gospel.

Insult me some more. I like it. :applause:

 

Which is your clever way of not posting the scripture you promised.

 

The fact that He showed strong attributes of both sides. It is my belief that Christians should be balanced, as Christ was. When getting involved with politics, it's not uncommon to see folks (some posting in this thread) confusing their political party positions for their doctrinal positions.

 

Thank you LadyEagle, but I assure you that I'm entirely relaxed. Pointing out the fallacies of someone's post shouldn't be mistaken for anxiety. :flower:

Although I admit, I really don't understand the post count reference. I have over 30k on another forum and it means nothing. People's opinions are taken for what they are.