Christian "Rock"?

I am sorry if I offended anyone with my sarcasm. I was actually trying to make things a little lighter. Brice, I'm gonna get right with God about chevy's.

 

My husband's parents were both two Salvation Army officers. The missionary kind, not the social work kind. He grew up listening to his dad's sermons and singing with his family on street corners. I cannot count the number of times he has heard a song from a Broadway musical or a folk song or other polular song and said, "Listen to the words the Salvation Army put to that!"

And they will be wonderful words about the Lord and salvation and the Bible.

All put to worldly music!

 

If it's Christian it ain't rock; if it's rock it ain't Christian.

The test of "worldly music" is often in the question: "What does the world think of it?"
I am not sure what the most popular music stores are in America; perhaps "Sam Goody"? Here there is a chain of HMV stores that sell almost every variety of music but emphasizing mostly on rock and whatever sells best in the world at the current time. More and more CCM is a growing industry and is taking a greater share of space in those stores. 20 to 30 years ago it was rare if you would ever find any Christian music in a store like that. And to this day you still won't find traditional hymns in these stores. You only find the music that appeals to the world. CCM appeals to the world. It appeals to the flesh.
"If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, etc. then it must be a_____" Just can't figure out why they don't have "What can wash away my sin; nothing but the blood of Jesus" in those stores?
The reason: Secular stores sell secular music.
Secular stores sell music of the world; music that will appeal to the world, not music that appeals to the spirit. They will not sell Godly music. You can't buy it there. There is a good reason why you can't buy Godly music at HMV or stores like that.
DHK

 

Amen, DHK

I opened a thread a few days ago called 'Screaming Preachers' The question was asked what people thought of screaming preachers.

Many that advocate the rock and roll style music in the church in which the singers have to be screaming to be heard over the music, cannot stand a screaming preacher. The reason? The preacher preaches against the flesh; the music does not.

 

To us they are not screaming. It is singing.. VERY LOUD

I think we all agree on one thing.... Worship is not about music...

Take the music away, and we will still worship our Savior, King, Creator, Lord, God, Prince of Peace, Etc..

When the music Fades, and all is swept away.....

Do we still worship Jesus?

I do, how about you?

 

Take away the music and those that were attracted to the church because of the music will leave and go where they can find the music again.

I challenge you, stop playing the music for a month. You will find that you will lose the majority of your attendees who are there every Sunday swaying to the music.

 

That is true with any type of music, including traditional hymns.

 

Pastor,

You make a very good point there.

Joseph Botwinick

 

Perhaps this is because music is a sort of universal language? Even when I don't know the words, I can hum along and enjoy/join in what is going on. There are times when we visit churches for speaking and we don't know some of the songs they all know quite well. So they are singing along and we are enjoying the music and the praise and the joy.

I love music! I think most people do. And I'm not sure we should foist our tastes off on others.

 

I went for two months straight without music in my congregation back in the 90's and did not lose any members. We sang traditional hymns. I don't believe that it would be any different today.

 

If you sang hymns then you did not really go without music completely.

 

Oh, well that is music, isn't it? The hymns?

 

That is not what I am saying SBC,

We sang hymns before the 2 months. We lost our pianist.

None could play the piano. We just came to services, prayed, taught and preached. No singing, no music. None were lost.

 

SFIC, my apologies, I misunderstood your post.

So you attribute that to the fact that before then you sang traditional hymns?

 

That's great, but isn't it much nicer to have the music? God gave us music. It is a gift, we should thank Him for it..

Imagine a world without music..... frightening isn't it.

 

I attribute it to the fact that it was not the music or singing that attracted the congregation. They were there to hear the Word of the Lord.

And I would say, if your congregation went without the music and singing, I daresay you may find out who truly is hungry for the Word and not just there for the music.

 

Tim,

For a music teacher like me, yes it would be frightening.

On the other hand, however, if God had not given us music to teach, then he would have blessed us with something else and it would have been enough.

Dienu.

Joseph Botwinick

 

SFIC I cannot argue with your experience, but I would say I would imagine there were other factors that come into play than just that.