Christian Standard Bible 2017

[Deacon]

Press Release
B&H to Launch Christian Standard Bible (CSB) Version in 2017

NASHVILLE, Tenn. – (June 21, 2016) B&H Publishing Group announced today the completed revision of the Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB). Renamed the Christian Standard Bible® (CSB), the text will be available in a full line of Bibles for readers of all ages, with initial products releasing March 2017.

2017 Christian Standard Bible (CSB): First Look [LINK]

A few notes of interest:

• All HCSB bullet notes have been removed.
• All 645 instances of Yahweh in the HCSB have been replaced with the more traditional LORD (all caps).
• Surprisingly (to me), beer has (correctly) been retained for the Hebrew שֵׁכָר/šēḵār.
• Pronouns referring to deity are no longer capitalized.
• Thankfully, other than the changes in capitalization, John 3:16 is still correctly translated as "For God loved the world in this way [οὕτως/houtōs]: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life."
• According to the former HCSB translator I spoke with, the new CSB uses the title Messiah much less often than the HCSB, which used it 116 times in the New Testament for Χριστός/Christos. Note, for instance, the use of Christ in Matt 1:16 of the CSB as opposed to the HCSB's Messiah.
• Contractions have been retained in spoken dialogue. Whether they have been increased or decreased in frequency is unknown without an electronic text to search.
• The textual basis for the CSB is the BHS5 for the Old Testament and the NA28/UBS5 for the New Testament.
• The term "Optimal Equivalence" has been retained as a way of describing the HCSB as a median translation between Formal and Dynamic Equivalence.
• The introduction makes note that traditional words such as justification, sanctification, and redemption are used "since such terms have no other translation equivalent that adequately communicates their exact meaning." Interestingly, though, I discovered that the HCSB's use of proptiation in Rom 3:25 (ἱλαστήριον/hilastērion); Heb 2:17 (λάσκομαι/hilaskomai); 1 John 2:2 (ἱλασμός/hilasmos); 4:10 (ἱλασμός/hilasmos) has been changed to follow the NIV's lead with the phrase "atoning sacrifice" in all of the instances except Heb 2:17 where it is translated "to make atonement."

Comment:
I rarely used the HCSB. I felt that it was "quirky". The use of Yahwey in the OT bothered me just as much as the over frequent use of Messiah in the NT.
When I write I rarely capitalize the pronouns for deity, so artificial IMO.

I'll have to look over the Christian Stand Bible when it comes out in March and spend some time in its pages.

Rob

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I'm interested in the beer reference. Specifically the type of beer. Some types of beer like original lager requires a cold climate for reducing spoilage. Pilsners came later and lessened the refrigeration requirements. Bottom line, I'd like to know what time of beer was used in horror climates.

 

[McCree79]

I will be picking up a copy. Unless my Olive Tree updates from HCSB to CSB be for free. Then I may just look at the electronic version until I form an opinion on it.


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[Rob_BW]

I will be picking up a copy. Unless my Olive Tree updates from HCSB to CSB be for free. Then I may just look at the electronic version until I form an opinion on it.


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Whoa, wait a minute, I thought I was the only regular HCSB user on this site.

 

[McCree79]

Whoa, wait a minute, I thought I was the only regular HCSB user on this site.

The ESV is my primary, but when I prepare a lesson or sermon, I read from multiple translations. I regularly use NASB, NIV, NKJV, and HCSB. But honestly I have been using the HCSB less over the last 6 months or so and the NIV more. My last 3 sermons I haven't even looked at the HCSB. I don't dislike it, it just wasn't bringing anything to the table of preparation. Next week I'm preaching in a more traditional/ old school church. So I am looking over the KJV as well. I like to know what the audience will see in their Bible.


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[Earth Wind and Fire]

Whoa, wait a minute, I thought I was the only regular HCSB user on this site.

Why.....whats the draw?

 

[Jerome]

Why.....whats the draw?

Baptist Press

"'When I first heard about the Holman Christian Standard Bible, I was not excited about it,' Mohler said. 'I think in many ways there are too many translations, and having one more translation is not necessarily a great thing. [However,] the changes in the last several months have convinced me that in the end this is an important thing for Southern Baptists to do -- if for no other reason than that we will have a major translation we can control.'"

 

[Rob_BW]

Why.....whats the draw?

I was in the market for a study bible, specifically, though now their notes are available alongside other versions.

I was looking at the ESV study bible, or possibly a Ryrie NASB, and then the HCSB study bible came out, so I picked one up. And I have been real happy with it these past few years.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Baptist Press

"'When I first heard about the Holman Christian Standard Bible, I was not excited about it,' Mohler said. 'I think in many ways there are too many translations, and having one more translation is not necessarily a great thing. [However,] the changes in the last several months have convinced me that in the end this is an important thing for Southern Baptists to do -- if for no other reason than that we will have a major translation we can control.'"

Ah control!!!!

 

[McCree79]

Ah control!!!!

Yep. It is actually quite important. As liberalism infects and spreads through the churches and seminaries, expect the transaltions to be come liberal. Without conservative control of Scripture, more versions like the Queen James Version, would likely take hold. The Bible is becoming just a book in many seminaries and churches. They won't care to alter the words.

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[Earth Wind and Fire]

I was in the market for a study bible, specifically, though now their notes are available alongside other versions.

I was looking at the ESV study bible, or possibly a Ryrie NASB, and then the HCSB study bible came out, so I picked one up. And I have been real happy with it these past few years.

Please understand, my everyday Bible is a paperback printed in 1989 NIV. My come to meeting one is a NKJ/ Bigger print so I can read it without squinting. most churches around here are weird regarding translations (IE anything goes)

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Yep. It is actually quite important. As liberalism infects and spreads through the churches and seminaries, expect the transaltions to be come liberal. Without conservative control of Scripture, more versions like the Queen James Version, would likely take hold. The Bible is becoming just a book in many seminaries and churches. They won't care to alter the words.

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Evident by people here who don't even care ....
they dont even carry them to Sunday service.

 

[Rob_BW]

Please understand, my everyday Bible is a paperback printed in 1989 NIV. My come to meeting one is a NKJ/ Bigger print so I can read it without squinting. most churches around here are weird regarding translations (IE anything goes)

My first introduction to study bibles was an Oxford annotated required for an Old Testament class at a state/secular college.

I liked the concept, but wasn't so sure of their theological positions.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

My first introduction to study bibles was an Oxford annotated required for an Old Testament class at a state/secular college.

That would have never flown with me since I was a RC for 34-35 years of my life. What Ive learned, Ive learned from self study because nobody here is willing to do bible study real well......so I get by with what I have.

 

[Rippon]

Without conservative control of Scripture, more versions like the Queen James Version, would likely take hold.

That's a rather far-fetched idea. Versions like that will never go mainstream.

 

[Jerome]

Yep. It is actually quite important. As liberalism infects and spreads through the churches and seminaries, expect the transaltions to be come liberal. Without conservative control of Scripture, more versions like the Queen James Version, would likely take hold.

That's a rather far-fetched idea. Versions like that will never go mainstream.

Yes, it was actually the introduction of the TNIV and the threat that it might take hold that drove Mohler to hop on the HCSB bandwagon.

 

[Rippon]

Yes, it was actually the introduction of the TNIV and the threat that it might take hold that drove Mohler to hop on the HCSB bandwagon.

Are you actually saying that the QJV and TNIV are similar threats? If so, you are in LaLa Land.

 

[McCree79]

That's a rather far-fetched idea. Versions like that will never go mainstream.

It not that far fecthed. When the church started its liberal movement they never expected lesbian pastors and gay marriage to be accepted. Even liberals 10-20 years ago were solidly grounded in traditional marriage. Now it is expected in liberal churches. Inerrancy in the Bible is becoming frowned upon. The largest SBC church in my county is looking for a pastor. The search committee has stated they don't want a guy who will preach the inerrancy of Scripture. To assume the liberalization of the church will not effect future translations is not a matter of possibility, but a matter of time. They will seek to alter the meaning of Scripture.

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[Jerome]

To assume the liberalization of the church will not effect future translations is not a matter of possibility, but a matter of time. They will seek to alter the meaning of Scripture.

Indeed.

Baptist Press (2002) "Mohler, Draper: TNIV Controversy Makes HCSB Translation Even More Important"

Translators, Mohler said, face many temptations, including the temptation to use gender-inclusive language. "There are many persons who are uttering feminist-originated arguments who do not consider themselves feminist, but they have bought into the worldview"

Mohler said there are other pressures -- including pressures from those pushing political correctness. He noted that the TNIV has changed "Jews" to "Jewish leaders" in several New Testament passages. The language is being contorted so fast, he added, that in five to 10 years some will be arguing for the removal of words such as "marriage" and "family" from the Bible.

 

[Rippon]

You spout utter stupidity Jerome.