Christianity Today

[John of Japan]

So, that would make them Free Will Baptists? :laugh:

Tillich is a good example, with his conflation of existentialism and neo-orthodoxy.

Some of the cells from that cancer are found in emergent-think, all this "post-modern" stuff, and in the man-centered pseudo-evangelism of way too many Baptists.

Actually, neo-orthodoxy is the theological version of existentialism. :saint:

 

[North Carolina Tentmaker]

Each individual person dwells on an island of existence. There is no real connection between our own existence and the existence of others. The only meaning our little island of existence has is the meaning we give it.

It's a little cold here to be getting the boat out and getting to an island, but maybe this is one of those warm tropical islands.

Of course with the lakes drawn down for winter a lot of the islands have become peninsulas. If my island becomes a peninsula does that mean there is a connection between my existence and the existence of others? So when the water is low in the winter then I depend on others but when the water is high in the summer I can go it alone.

Of course then Jesus turns the water into wine, which we all know is the Spirit.

So I can be more spiritual alone, drinking wine on the islands in the summertime, but in the wintertime I need to depend on others and drink water.
:tonofbricks:
I think I just metaphor-ed and allagoried myself into a knot.

 

[Jim1999]

Tillich neo-orthodox? He was out and out liberal to the core. The father of liberalism in America. Do remember that Tillich was affiliated with Union Seminary in NY, Chicago Divinity in Chicago and Harvard. The three main liberal schools. Union and Chicago the same homes for Harry Emerson Fosdick!

Existentialism can be applied to any religion including Buddhism. We used to call it the feel-good philosophy because everything happened inside ME.

I haven't seen a copy of Christianity Today for 35 years, and hence my question about it. It was closely linked to Billy Graham and I was linked with Carl McIntyre so I'll say no more on that point.

Cheers,

Jim

 

[Jim1999]

I would like to thank everyone for their valuable contribution to my thread.

I wanted it to be done in Baptist circles and since the thread has been moved, I am now finished with it.

Again, thanks to all, and bless.

Cheers,

Jim

 

[Ed Franklin]

Tillich neo-orthodox? ...

Well, I always viewed him as a fence-straddler--between liberalism and the neo-orthodoxy of the "anti-liberal" Niebuhr.

But, you knew him,so I yield the point. (You are, after all, old enough to be.....well.....older than I am -- which is sayin' something!) :saint:

CT--I have a subscription because it was the only mag on the list of things my grandson was selling which offered any prospect of usefulness. If existentialism can be defined as "the feel-good philosophy because everything happened inside ME" then CT is decidedly existentialist.

It's like a promo work for all the man-centered perversions of the gospel which are on offer today, either via television or in the pulpits of so many "churches"

(Carl McIntyre?........WOW! :thumbs: )

 

[Matt Black]

If it is the same as the publication of the same name we get over here, then I read it from time to time (my firm even advertises in it); it's always struck me as pretty mainstream evangelical (by UK standards of that word at least), albeit tending towards the charismatic rather than 'traditional' evangelical. That may make it 'liberal' in the eyes of some here, I suppose, since charismatics can at times emphasise experience over Scripture, but I'd hardly call that a 'liberal' theology, more an ill-advised ignorance or downplaying of the Scriptures or even just a 'deficit of theology', period - I've heard charismaticism described as "an experience in search of a theology".

 

[PeterM]

John Piper is a frequent contributor to the magazine as are other respected leaders, many of whom are mentioned on BB. Is Piper an existentialist? I think not...

With varied writers given the opportunity to publish in CT, there are going to be some who we don't necessarily see eye to eye with. But I guess if you are a "baptist" the baby gets chucked out with the bath water...

 

[Matt Black]

There's also a 'letters' section where correspondents can get to respond to POVs with which they disagree.

 

[Ed Franklin]

Actually, neo-orthodoxy is the theological version of existentialism. :saint:

okey, dokey.......(heading back to the kiddie pool.......out of my depths again!)

 

[Ed Franklin]

But I guess if you are a "baptist" the baby gets chucked out with the bath water...

so that's the problem! buncha ignorant baptists........good grief! You'd think they'd start their own board.......

 

[thegospelgeek]

So, that would make them Free Will Baptists? :laugh:

Hey now, I'm watching you!