GoodTidings
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Jesus died for all people, not select group.
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Christs died for Satan's sins?
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You are mistaken Hebrews 2:16 says he took on him th Seed of Abraham not the seed of Adam
GoodTidings
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No, you are mistaken due to sloppy exegesis. That verse occurs in a context that explains why Jesus is greater the angels. The reference is to the line of Abraham, the Messianic line. Jesus is THE Seed of Abraham and the Messianic line goes back to Abraham. This is not comparison between Abraham and Adam.
Jesus died for all humanity, we don't become the seed of Abraham until we are saved. And God has not selected out who will or will not be saved.
seek save and the LOST
GoodTidings
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Nope. That is not true. You need to start following Jesus and the pure of Word of God stop trying to promote lies and false doctrine.
Looks like you miss the passage but at least you are consistently wrong.
Jesus died a Covenant death on behalf of the children the Father has given Himin vs.11-13.
The part about the Angel's has been dealt with in chapter one..
Gal.3 shows we are In Christ the seed of Abraham
Not all are lost tares, goats, and reprobate are right where they should be.
The lost sheep here belong to God.
GoodTidings
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No, I am not wrong at all. Sorry, but the passage you cite does not limit Jesus death to a certain group of people. Again, your exegesis is sloppy and promotes a false gospel. Gal 3 refers to those who are the seed of Abraham by faith. . No one is the seed of Abraham by faith until AFTER they are saved. Try actually reading your Bible instead of regurgitating Calvinist talking points.
yes, but He also became flesh because the children were flesh. Heb 2 is more specific
Are you saying fallen angels are nor sinners?
We are saying you limit God to your understanding. The blood of God is sufficient not inadequate.
All creation belongs to God. Those who reject Him at some point are tares, goats, reprobates. He did not create those as sinners
Yes...all of the elect children that He came to save....were flesh and blood sinners.
All are sinners in Adam.
All sinned in Adam
Rom3:23,romans5:12-21.
God elected.out of fallen humanity a multitude that He intends to save.
Jesus comes to die for THEM, accomplishing their redemption.
Using the ITL SCALE;
1,2,3 4 5,...
Are you saying fallen angels did not sin?
We are all flesh and blood
so God created some just to condemn them knowing the were not elect? is this your position?
GoodTidings
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Nope. I am saying that they are not objects of redemption. Jesus did not die for sinful angels. He died for sinful man.
GoodTidings
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I guess that is what you resort to when you can't make a coherent response.
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