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Col. 1:19-22: Saved Through the Blood of the Cross

asterisktom

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Merriam-Webster bases all of it definitions upon their own massive database of actual word usage. That database clearly shows that in the English-speaking world, the word Parousia does not express the concept “presence” but rather it expresses the concept:
in Christian theology

:
the time when Jesus Christ will return to judge humanity at the end of the world : SECOND
 

asterisktom

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Our definition of Bible words ought to come from how they are used in the Bible. There are several good concordance and lexicon you could have cited. But didn't.
 

Craigbythesea

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Fair enough, but since my name was attached to the post, it might have been better to make a separate posting.

I am not unacquainted with the Council of Trent and its purposes. However, the Roman Catholic doctrine of Justification differs rather widely from the Protestant (and Baptist) understanding as I have pointed out to you. You might like to contact Cathode, who is a real, live Roman Catholic, on the Other Christian Denominations forum and ask him if Rome now believes in Justification by Faith Alone.
The Roman Catholic doctrine of Justification does not differ rather widely from the Protestant understandings of the doctrine that differ rather widely from each other. Indeed, the Roman Catholic doctrine of Justification is nearly identical to the Lutheran doctrine. However, the Roman Catholic doctrine of Justification differs greatly from the Reformed Doctrine of Justification and very significantly from most Baptist doctrines of Justification—especially those that are heavily influenced by Reformed theology. The most substantial difference between the Roman Catholic doctrine of Justification and the many Baptist doctrines of Justification is that the Catholic Church distinguishes between initial justification and ultimate justification where the very large majority of Baptists (those who teach OSAS) make no such distinction. Another significant difference between the Roman Catholic doctrine of Justification and the many Baptist doctrines of Justification is that the Catholic Church emphasizes the quality of saving faith teaching that faith without “hope” and “love” is not biblical faith. Nonetheless, the quotes that I presented from the New American Bible and the commentaries on the Greek text of Romans by Boylan and by Fitzmyer clearly show that the Roman Catholic doctrine of Justification does not differ widely from the Protestant understandings of the doctrine that differ rather widely from each other.

Some years ago, I attended a Protestant Bible study that was also attended by a Roman Catholic Priest. The priest’s ignorance of the Bible and Roman Catholic dogma from a biblical perspective was shocking. At about the same time, I had a 90-minute conversation with Monsignor G******* who was the rector of a large cathedral. We talked about Roman Catholic dogma and his personal beliefs where they agreed and where they differed from that dogma. However, what really struck me was the unmistakable overriding presence of Christ in His life. That 90-minute conversation changed my life!
 
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