Collecting Bible Versions

[3John2]

Going back to the original topic before it dissented into the usual KJVO vs other versions debate, I also like to collect bibles.
Currently some of my faves are Ferrar Fentons "Holy Bible in Modern English", I also like Worrells New Testament. I just recently purchased a Wuest Expanded New Testament which I'm currently using to read through the NT. I REALLY like that. I'ts like the Amplified in a way. I also have a Phillips & Weymouth as well. I also have several in Spanish which I do use & one in Russian & one in Ukrainian though I'm not fluent enough to read those yet. I still need to buy a Moffat, Rotherham, & ESV.

 

[skanwmatos]

Originally posted by robycop3:
Also, have you noticed,

Yes. I noticed. Odd, isn't it?

 

[Askjo]

Originally posted by RaptureReady:
As I have said before, I do believe that the men were inspired to write the KJB.

God did NOT inspire the men to write the KJV. The men were translators to translate the KJV from the Hebrew/Greek texts. God inspired His words in the autographs. God preserved His words in apographs and translations.

 

[mioque]

rsr
Will do.

 

[Dr. Bob]

Originally posted by Askjo:
God did NOT inspire the men to write the KJV. The men were translators to translate the KJV from the Hebrew/Greek texts. God inspired His words in the autographs.

Amen. That is sound doctrine.

God preserved His words in apographs and translations.

And that is odd. God preserved His Word in translations?

If I copy an inspired document, that copy (if accurate) will preserve the original Word. But if I translate it into a receptor language, I have changed from "copying" into "interpreting".

The only thing "preserved" are the interpretation of the translators.

 

[DeclareHim]

Originally posted by robycop3:
Also, have you noticed, Larry, Craig, Ed, Skan, Declare, Hank,& others, that many threads here have been allowed to die with the last post being a rebuttal of some KJVO notion? It appears the KJVOs, when cornered, simply try to vanish from those particular threads & re-appear in a new one, presenting the same ole garbage from another dumpster, somehow hoping we won't notice. You'd think that after some 30-odd years of failure that they'd at least try to come up with something new. Truth is, they don't have anything new to come up with, so they simply try to present the same ole, same ole, worded slightly differently each time. Why they wish to cling to a man-made myth that's been disproven at every turn is beyond me.

Agree.

 

[Lacy Evans]

Originally posted by DeclareHim:
Why did God pick to just inspire 1 version of His Word in English and why did He pick the KJV. Questions KJVO's cannot answer.

Why did God choose One nation Israel? Why did he choose Greek in the early church?

More questions KJVOs cannot answer. (Neither can you.)

Lacy

 

[Craigbythesea]

The obvious answer to the questions is that He did not do those things that DeclareHim asked about. The KJOists are lacking:

• a motive
• eye witnesses
• affidavits from God
• evidence of any kind whatsoever
• common sense
• a knowledge of the Bible
• a knowledge of the Biblical languages
• a knowledge of textual criticism
• a knowledge of linguistics
• a knowledge of history
• a sound mind

 

[Craigbythesea]

Why did God choose One nation Israel?

Rom. 4:13. For the promise to Abraham or to his descendants that he would be heir of the world was not through the Law, but through the righteousness of faith. (NASB, 1995)

Why did he choose Greek in the early church?

Greek was, at that time, nearly a universal language. It also had, unlike English, the necessary moods and tenses to convey His message.

 

[Lacy Evans]

Originally posted by Craigbythesea:
The KJOists are lacking:

• a sound mind

Hey! I resemble that remark!

Lacy

 

[TomVols]

I know this is probably semantics, but I don't like the whole idea of "collecting" Bible versions. There are way too many people in the world without a copy of God's Word. My own personal conviction is I stopped having duplicate translations (and I have many for the profitability of studying God's Word) and took my duplicates and donated them to prison ministries, missionaries, etc. Unless it's a study edition or something of that sort, I don't keep multiple translations lying around. I even took some given to me as gifts (gen leather and the whole shot) and donated them (cost me a fortune in having my name un-imprinted)

Anyway, that's just my conviction.

 

[Craigbythesea]

Anyway, that's just my conviction.

Yes, it is.

But at least you are back on the topic of collecting Bible translations

. I believer that DeclareHim is collecting a copy of each of the different translations of the Bible. I do that myself. I also collect various editions of the various translations so that when I speak or write about a specific translation, I know what I am talking about.

Many Christians collect plates, spoons, crystal, coins, stamps, baseball cards, or something else. These collections could all be sold (some of the for a great deal of money) and the money given to support a missionary, pay the tuition for a poor boy or girl wanting to go to Bible college, home the homeless, feed the hungry, pay for cancer research, or some other cause. And how about the Christian who owns a boat or an RV, or who has a membership in a country club, or has a larger and more expensive house than he actually needs? And how about the Christian who spends $40 to go to a football game, or $300 for a week-end ski trip. We could all eat rice once a day and drink nothing but tap water and give our grocery money to our church so that our pastor could buy a new Mercedes Benz 450 SL.

We are all given a stewardship, and we all answer to OUR OWN master.

 

[DeclareHim]

Originally posted by Craigbythesea:
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Yes, it is.

But at least you are back on the topic of collecting Bible translations

. I believer that DeclareHim is collecting a copy of each of the different translations of the Bible. I do that myself. I also collect various editions of the various translations so that when I speak or write about a specific translation, I know what I am talking about.

We are all given a stewardship, and we all answer to OUR OWN master.

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[Ed Edwards]

Amen, Brother Craigbythesea -- Preach it!

My wife now paints with a widow each
Thursday. The widow's husband was a Gidion.
When he retired, he became an evangelist
to the prision about 10 miles south of
here. I've donated hundreds of bibles that
he delivered to prisioners, when he was
alive. I've only got maybe 3-dozen Bible
Versions collected.

 

[Craigbythesea]

Good job, Ed!

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

I have no problems collecting them. Most bought at yards sales, book sales, etc. I think I have about 25 versions, close to 30 if you include the various KJV's.

 

[TomVols]

Good to know my comments weren't taken out of context

Like I said, I think we're probably talking about semantics. I have to point out that I'm talking about owning too many duplicates of one translation for sheer speculation. The things Craigbythesea mentioned are red herrings. I simply was pointing out that there are some that I know (none on this board) who seem to take some type of super-spiritual pride in the number of Bibles they own. Given that there are many in this world who will never even see one, I think we should consider how it profits a man if we gain a library full of Bibles yet watch people lose their souls.

And I have no problem with people owning a Lexus, going to football games, collecting whatever. I DO have a problem with them using grocery money or money that should've gone to Kingdom work to do so. That makes me a minority, I know

 

[3John2]

I think the REAL crux of the matter is whether you USE the ones you HAVE be it 1 or 50. I DO use just about all of mine when I study. Some more than others. My KJV is my main but I use the Fenton, Amplified, Wuest's Expanded & Worrel's quite a bit more than the others. I'll cram the Word in me in any version I can man!!

 

[michelle]

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But, if you still insist that God has granted this awesome apostolic power of re-"Inspiration" of the Scriptures to the King of England and whomsoever he appoints as the titular head of the Church and you really believe this, why aren't you an Anglo-Catholic or for that fact a Roman Catholic, a member of the Church or Rome, who claimed this power first for Jerome's Latin Vulgate?

HankD
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Raptureready, You are very correct and speak the truth

! I thank you and the Lord for your great love and stand for his words. Don't let many of those here try to bully you around , and turn your wonderful faith into doubt . Continue to contend for the faith once delivered unto the saints. May the Lord continue to richly bless you, and all here.


Hank and others,


Many are clueless and lack biblical understanding of inspiration first of all (only God can and is inspired, not men), and secondly, even what many people believe regarding this pertaining to the KJB . First of all, no new revelation or scripture was being given. IT was a TRANSLATION FROM WHAT WAS ALREADY THERE AND PRESERVED

. Do you understand the guidance and providence of God? And how God allowed for the printing and spelling errors, and then SAW TO IT IT WAS CORRECTED. This cannot be said of the mv's however, as they are translational errors and errors stemming from the underlying texts . IF the base source of the error is coming from those texts, then these cannot be corrected, nor will they be, ecspecially if they are viewed to be better and more authentic and accurate (mans/scholars opinions and obviously not the truth).

Many seem to amaze me, that many will always try to make it seem as those who are KJVO's (as you all label us) believe as heretics and apostates - are you trying to upset us purposely ? This seems to me, to be the case and is very immature, and unchristian like behaviour. Is this done to you all regarding this issue? The most ironic thing in this whole debate, is that the mv's rely upon thier own human reasoning and logic first and foremost, rather than relying upon the words of the Lord and the evidence HE has fullfilled his promise, and faith in God's promises which is staring us right in the face. The lenghths many will all go to, even at the expense of faith in God's very words, to attack the words of God in order to excuse the mv's is very unbelievable .


love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
michelle

 

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

The lenghths many will all go to, even at the expense of faith in God's very words, to attack the words of God in order to excuse the mv's is very unbelievable

The lengths many will all go to, even at the expense of faith in God's very words, to attack the words of God in order to attack the mv's is very unbelievable .

Wow michelle - you and I think almost alike

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