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Colorado Student Quits Choir over Islamic song praising 'Allah'

Don

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http://www.krextv.com/news/around-t...and-Junction-High-School-Choir-139329693.html

The student:
“I don’t want to come across as a bigot or a racist, but I really don’t feel it is appropriate for students in a public high school to be singing an Islamic worship song,” Harper told NewsChannel 5.

The district spokesman:
“This is about bringing diversity to the students and showing them other things that are out there,” spokesman Jeff Kirtland said. “The teacher was open with the parents and students do not have to participate in this voluntary club choir.”

From Fox News, the composer of the song:
Rahman, who has sold hundreds of millions of records and is well-known in his homeland, has said the song is not intended for a worship ceremony.

What the part of the song translates to that the student objected to:
one verse translates to "There is no truth except Allah" and "Allah is the only eternal and immortal."

How does that translation mesh up with what the composer says? Because islam isn't just a religion; it's a way of life. You don't just practice islam for religious reasons; it is the way you live your life, it is the foundation of everything you do and say.
 

Arbo

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Two terms come to mind with regard to religion and public schools: Hypocrisy and double-standard.
 

mont974x4

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May God bless this brave student for standing up.

Arbo is right, there is a severe double standard and rampant hypocrisy in our public schools concerning religion. Too many people have forgotten that this nation was founded on Christian principles and our schools were started to prepare people for ministry. The Bible was a key text book until the 1950's. All this while still allowing the free exercise of other religions. Well, not everyone forgot, many fell for the separation of church and state lie along with other aspects of revisionist history.
 

FR7 Baptist

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If he didn't want to sing a Muslim song, I see no reason why he couldn't just sit that one song out. I was in my school chorus and while we didn't sing any Muslim songs, we did sing a number of religious songs. My teacher was also the assistant music director for a Baptist church and he did some of the same songs with us that he did at his church.

When I was in high school, I'd talk about theology with some of my teachers. For example, I had an English teacher who was a liberal Presbyterian Calvinist woman ruling elder and my woodshop teacher was a conservative Presbyterian Calvinist man ruling elder. My male biology teacher and my female ecology teacher didn't believe in God. I had a Catholic teacher who abandoned Catholicism and became a non-committed Christian and then married a Reform Jewish teacher. My sign language teacher was United Methodist. The principal was Baptist and he was also a Calvinist.
 

righteousdude2

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Kudos....

...to this student for making the type of stand more Americans need to be making.

The Muslim people have migrated to many countries across the globe and offered up their version of the infamous Trojan Horse. It should not be a surprise to anyone when the true agenda of the Muslim religion comes pouring out of that horse, changing our society forever.

We cannot and should not forget that the people who follow the Muslim religion see the west, particularly America, as the great Satan. That is a teaching that continues, regardless of their ability to live peacefully among us. We are the great Satan, and they have to, in the end, destroy us. :type:
 

just-want-peace

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...to this student for making the type of stand more Americans need to be making.

The Muslim people have migrated to many countries across the globe and offered up their version of the infamous Trojan Horse. It should not be a surprise to anyone when the true agenda of the Muslim religion comes pouring out of that horse, changing our society forever.

We cannot and should not forget that the people who follow the Muslim religion see the west, particularly America, as the great Satan. That is a teaching that continues, regardless of their ability to live peacefully among us. We are the great Satan, and they have to, in the end, destroy us. :type:
Emphasis mine

Never happen - we're doing it to ourselves quite satisfactorily.
MARANATHA!!
 

Jon-Marc

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So, in bringing "diversity to the students", do they also sing songs praising Jesus as the "only begotten Son of God", as "the Way, the Truth, and the Life", as well as the ONLY Mediator between God and man? Of course not, that's a foolish question.
 

Magnetic Poles

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This is precisely why we do not need religion mixed with public schools Keep them totally separate. Those who push for prayer in public schools are opening the door to this as well. It may not always be YOUR prayer that gets instituted.
 

FR7 Baptist

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This is precisely why we do not need religion mixed with public schools Keep them totally separate. Those who push for prayer in public schools are opening the door to this as well. It may not always be YOUR prayer that gets instituted.

The problem with that is you can't exclude all religious music from a secular public school music program and still have a good choral music program. What you do is you choose music based on its musical qualities, which will include a fair amount of sacred music from various cultures. As I said, I was in my high school chorus and we sang a lot of religious pieces.
 

Don

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The problem with that is you can't exclude all religious music from a secular public school music program and still have a good choral music program. What you do is you choose music based on its musical qualities, which will include a fair amount of sacred music from various cultures. As I said, I was in my high school chorus and we sang a lot of religious pieces.
Yet - in your description of "your" high school, you only mentioned one Jewish teacher. Everyone else was some form of Christianity. Did you sing Jewish hymns? Or hymns from any religion other than Christianity?

Would you have sung the words "Allah is the one true god?"
 
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