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Columbine lessons ignored in Uvalde

5 point Gillinist

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That is what I mentioned to Reynolds on a thread a month or two ago LEOs are trained to respond when they arrive on the scene after the columbine disaster. In my opinion, they wanted the slaughter to happen, being as they restrained parents from going in, and tried to restrain the border agents that ended up ending the situation from entering. It seems to me that when the dems are back in power mass shootings go up.
 

just-want-peace

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Just compare prior to ‘20 to SINCE ‘20.
I have absolutely no doubt that the liberals/progressives/dems/satanists it’s are “OUT TO DESTROY AMERICA” as a sovereign nation!!!!!!!
Basically everything they push is anti biblical/Christian/moral/American. This fact alone should wake-up those who are dems cause Daddy was a dem!?!?
:Mad:Mad:Mad
 

Van

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Sniveling cowards make poor hall monitors. Ask yourselves, during the hour or so they waited in the hall, how many shots were heard coming from the classroom. If there was one, it was a "active shooter" event, and they choose not to risk their lives to save the kids. Every single one of them knew the score, and should be prosecuted for negligent homicide if one shot was heard.
 

canadyjd

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Sniveling cowards make poor hall monitors. Ask yourselves, during the hour or so they waited in the hall, how many shots were heard coming from the classroom. If there was one, it was a "active shooter" event, and they choose not to risk their lives to save the kids. Every single one of them knew the score, and should be prosecuted for negligent homicide if one shot was heard.
Just wondering if the current anti-LEO climate contributed to the delay?

I saw where a LEO with a rifle had the gunman in his sights outside the school but was asking for permission to shoot. Why? He had already fired on people and was about to enter the school. Was a policy in place they couldn’t shoot without permission?

peace to you
 

Van

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Just wondering if the current anti-LEO climate contributed to the delay?

I saw where a LEO with a rifle had the gunman in his sights outside the school but was asking for permission to shoot. Why? He had already fired on people and was about to enter the school. Was a policy in place they couldn’t shoot without permission?

peace to you
Yeah, the story seems be evolve and evolve. And since law enforcement officers can be held accountable for excessive force, they need to know when they are allowed to make the decision to use deadly force.
 

Revmitchell

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Yeah, the story seems be evolve and evolve. And since law enforcement officers can be held accountable for excessive force, they need to know when they are allowed to make the decision to use deadly force.

LEO's are trained prior these events to know when. They go through extensive training in school and then ongoing training. They are not required to ask to need to know. Further, if you take a shot and a supervisor told you you have permission it does not relieve you from the liability for a wrong shot.
 

canadyjd

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LEO's are trained prior these events to know when. They go through extensive training in school and then ongoing training. They are not required to ask to need to know. Further, if you take a shot and a supervisor told you you have permission it does not relieve you from the liability for a wrong shot.
The amount of training LEO’s receive varies widely according to jurisdiction. Additionally, every jurisdiction can have their own rules of engagement. That may include a requirement for supervisor approval for a “sniper” type shot.

It would be interesting to know what type of training these officers had and what rules for lethal force were in place.

peace to you
 

Revmitchell

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The amount of training LEO’s receive varies widely according to jurisdiction. Additionally, every jurisdiction can have their own rules of engagement. That may include a requirement for supervisor approval for a “sniper” type shot.

It would be interesting to know what type of training these officers had and what rules for lethal force were in place.

peace to you

How often training occurs after LEO school varies but all LEO's are trained sufficiently. I would be interested to know of a jurisdiction that requires approval during an active shooter event. All of those LEO's should resign. I have never heard of it.
 

canadyjd

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How often training occurs after LEO school varies but all LEO's are trained sufficiently. I would be interested to know of a jurisdiction that requires approval during an active shooter event. All of those LEO's should resign. I have never heard of it.
I agree. I simply can’t imagine being in that hallway, hearing the gunshots and not saying, “let’s roll”! You have to risk everything for those kids.

peace to you
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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Just compare prior to ‘20 to SINCE ‘20.
I have absolutely no doubt that the liberals/progressives/dems/satanists it’s are “OUT TO DESTROY AMERICA” as a sovereign nation!!!!!!!
Basically everything they push is anti biblical/Christian/moral/American. This fact alone should wake-up those who are dems cause Daddy was a dem!?!?
:Mad:Mad:Mad
Let’s not forget that Obama ushered in a new era of extreme racism and violence, anti-police and anti-America sentiment. Recall the way he handled Ferguson. He legitimized BLM and Antifa. Biden was right there with him.

The Dem Progressive Left, most especially their media, have been justifying this ever since, even more so while Trump was in office. What hope for a populace so bent on believing those liars and their lies?
 

Reynolds

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Let’s not forget that Obama ushered in a new era of extreme racism and violence, anti-police and anti-America sentiment. Recall the way he handled Ferguson. He legitimized BLM and Antifa. Biden was right there with him.

The Dem Progressive Left, most especially their media, have been justifying this ever since, even more so while Trump was in office. What hope for a populace so bent on believing those liars and their lies?
The shift is definitely going anti Police. I am retired L.E. and I am quickly becoming anti Police.
 
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