Comey's strange theology

[church mouse guy]

George Neumayr, who is a contributing editor of The American Spectator magazine and author with the late Phyllis Schlafly of a book called No Higher Power: Obama's War On Religious Freedom as well as a new book a year ago entitled The Political Pope: How Pope Francis Is Delighting the Liberal Left and Abandoning Conservatives, has written an article about Comey's Complexes.

Comey, for his college degree at William and Mary (1982?) wrote a sophomoric thesis attacking Fundamentalism and touting New-Orthodoxy, a form of cultic liberal theology.

Specifically, Comey liked Reinhold Niebuhr (1892-1971), who was a professor at Union Theological Seminary for 30 years and a pacifist and a socialist. Riebuhr disliked the "idolatry" of nationalism, which he thought could become a vice. Niebuhr thought that true religion must be prophetic and void of nationalism, selifishness and pride. (One key feature of neo-orthodoxy is that it does not accept the authority and inspiration of the Scriptures.)

Comey contrasted the superiority of Neo-Orthodoxy over Fundamentalism--particularly Jerry Falwell--which he critized for narrow Christian morality and nationalism expressed as patriotism. Comey found Reagan and Falwell distasteful and vulgar. Comey finds Trump equally vulgar and distasteful.

Comey’s Complexes

 

[just-want-peace]

Put this in the category of "I didn't KNOW this, but it doesn't surprise me!"

 

[FollowTheWay]

George Neumayr, who is a contributing editor of The American Spectator magazine and author with the late Phyllis Schlafly of a book called No Higher Power: Obama's War On Religious Freedom as well as a new book a year ago entitled The Political Pope: How Pope Francis Is Delighting the Liberal Left and Abandoning Conservatives, has written an article about Comey's Complexes.

Comey, for his college degree at William and Mary (1982?) wrote a sophomoric thesis attacking Fundamentalism and touting New-Orthodoxy, a form of cultic liberal theology.

Specifically, Comey liked Reinhold Niebuhr (1892-1971), who was a professor at Union Theological Seminary for 30 years and a pacifist and a socialist. Riebuhr disliked the "idolatry" of nationalism, which he thought could become a vice. Niebuhr thought that true religion must be prophetic and void of nationalism, selifishness and pride. (One key feature of neo-orthodoxy is that it does not accept the authority and inspiration of the Scriptures.)

Comey contrasted the superiority of Neo-Orthodoxy over Fundamentalism--particularly Jerry Falwell--which he critized for narrow Christian morality and nationalism expressed as patriotism. Comey found Reagan and Falwell distasteful and vulgar. Comey finds Trump equally vulgar and distasteful.

Comey’s Complexes

Reinhold Niebuhr | American theologian

Reinhold Niebuhr, (born June 21, 1892, Wright City, Missouri, U.S.—died June 1, 1971, Stockbridge, Massachusetts), American Protestant theologian who had extensive influence on political thought and whose criticism of the prevailing theological liberalism of the 1920s significantly affected the intellectual climate within American Protestantism.

I would argue that extreme nationalism has been shown to be a terrible thing using the example of Hitler's Germany.

 

[church mouse guy]

Put this in the category of "I didn't KNOW this, but it doesn't surprise me!"

Thanks! It surprised me because I just thought that Comey was a dirty cop, a liar.

I did buy and read the book about Obama's war on religious freedom, but I did not remember Neumayr's name, but he is a good theologian. Apparently, Comey's thesis is a boring, childish paper, but it proves Comey's misunderstanding of Fundamentalism and his attempted use of religion for political purposes.

As for Neumayr's book on Pope Francis, I have not read it, but the communist dissidents from Cuba and elsewhere soon published that Pope Francis was aligned with the fascist Peron party in Argentina and had never spoken out against the Iranian attacks on the Israeli Embassy and Jewish Center in Buenos Aires nor the murder of Jewish special prosecutor Nisman a couple of years ago. I think the Pope is somewhat senile.

So I think the information about Comey is correct.

The question remains as to why Mueller does not know that Comey is a dirty cop?

 

[church mouse guy]

Reinhold Niebuhr | American theologian

Reinhold Niebuhr, (born June 21, 1892, Wright City, Missouri, U.S.—died June 1, 1971, Stockbridge, Massachusetts), American Protestant theologian who had extensive influence on political thought and whose criticism of the prevailing theological liberalism of the 1920s significantly affected the intellectual climate within American Protestantism.

I would argue that extreme nationalism has been shown to be a terrible thing using the example of Hitler's Germany.

Niebuhr was a minor figure, a socialist and a pacifist. He dealt in liberal political boilerplate of the last 100 years. Neo-orthodoxy has been discarded and might only be remembered for their unbalanced attacks on the sound doctrines of American Fundamentalism.

 

[FollowTheWay]

Niebuhr was a minor figure, a socialist and a pacifist. He dealt in liberal political boilerplate of the last 100 years. Neo-orthodoxy has been discarded and might only be remembered for their unbalanced attacks on the sound doctrines of American Fundamentalism.

As it says in the article from the Encyclopedia Britannica that I quoted, Niebuhr fought against the prevailing theological liberal theology of his day. You're a bit confused.

 

[church mouse guy]

As it says in the article from the Encyclopedia Britannica that I quoted, Niebuhr fought against the prevailing theological liberal theology of his day. You're a bit confused.

No, neo-orthodoxy is a form of liberal theology. Don't you know that liberals disagree among themselves? Specifically, neo-orthodoxy rejects the authenticity and inspiration of Scripture. A few years ago I read a book by George Eldon Ladd on various schools of theology after World War II. It is a circus of theologies in the liberal camp. Most of the people Ladd was writing about almost immediately faded into obscurity. Fundamentalism is good but Niebuhr has been forgotten..

 

[FollowTheWay]

No, neo-orthodoxy is a form of liberal theology. Don't you know that liberals disagree among themselves? Specifically, neo-orthodoxy rejects the authenticity and inspiration of Scripture. A few years ago I read a book by George Eldon Ladd on various schools of theology after World War II. It is a circus of theologies in the liberal camp. Most of the people Ladd was writing about almost immediately faded into obscurity. Fundamentalism is good but Niebuhr has been forgotten..

What specifically do you disagree with concerning Niebuhr's theology? Why is the fact that Comey wrote a paper about him when he was a sophomore in College relevant to anything? Maybe you could share with us the theological papers Trump wrote in college or any evidence he even thought about God until it became politically expedient.

 

[church mouse guy]

What specifically do you disagree with concerning Niebuhr's theology? Why is the fact that Comey wrote a paper about him when he was a sophomore in College relevant to anything? Maybe you could share with us the theological papers Trump wrote in college or any evidence he even thought about God until it became politically expedient.

As an Evangelical, I am not a pacifist and I am a capitalist, not a aocialist.

Comey' s paper was sophomoric but it was written as a condition of graduation. It was mostly political in that it apparently was an attack on Fundamentalism and patriotism, which Comey equated with Nazism.

The paper is curious because it dealt with religious liberalism. I don't like lies from cops, do you?

 

[FollowTheWay]

As an Evangelical, I am not a pacifist and I am a capitalist, not a aocialist.

Comey' s paper was sophomoric but it was written as a condition of graduation. It was mostly political in that it apparently was an attack on Fundamentalism and patriotism, which Comey equated with Nazism.

The paper is curious because it dealt with religious liberalism. I don't like lies from cops, do you?

As a Christian, I am primarily a pacifist agreeing that under extraordinary circumstances, like WWII, war is necessary. Vietnam/Afghanistan/Iraq were unnecessary and resulted only in the murder of hundreds of thousands of people at a huge cost.
I'd like to see Comey's statement that fundamentalism/patriotism is the same as Nazism. That sounds like far Right propaganda.

Oh, and there's nothing said in the New Testament about favoring one form of government over another. (In the OT the Jews did request a king.) In fact, look at the description of the NT church in Acts chap. 2:

[Act 2:44-47 KJV] 44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common; 45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all [men], as every man had need. 46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart, 47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

They had all their possessions in common and gave to them who had need. Does this sound like capitalism to you?

 

[Revmitchell]

I'd like to see Comey's statement that fundamentalism/patriotism is the same as Nazism. That sounds like far Right propaganda.

First it is not possible that there is a far right. Second you do realize that it the mythical "far right" that they accuse of "fundamentalism/patriotism" don't you? That being true it cannot be coming from the "far right" as they would be calling themselves that.

Not sure why that needs explaining.

 

[Revmitchell]

As an Evangelical, I am not a pacifist and I am a capitalist, not a aocialist.

Comey' s paper was sophomoric but it was written as a condition of graduation. It was mostly political in that it apparently was an attack on Fundamentalism and patriotism, which Comey equated with Nazism.

The paper is curious because it dealt with religious liberalism. I don't like lies from cops, do you?

Oh wait.....I get it, you thought you were responding to an actual well reasoned person. So you gave him a well reasoned answer. I was lost for a minute there.

 

[church mouse guy]

Oh wait.....I get it, you thought you were responding to an actual well reasoned person. So you gave him a well reasoned answer. I was lost for a minute there.

Very funny!

 

[I Love An Atheist]

I would argue that extreme nationalism has been shown to be a terrible thing using the example of Hitler's Germany.

Americans have always been patriotic yet avoided fascism. In fact our patriots fought against Hitler's Germany.

Had Hitler gone on to achieve his Third Reich, then it would have been globalism, not nationalism. Would that have made it any better?

 

[I Love An Atheist]

Oh, and there's nothing said in the New Testament about favoring one form of government over another. (In the OT the Jews did request a king.) In fact, look at the description of the NT church in Acts chap. 2:

[Act 2:44-47 KJV] 44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common; 45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all [men], as every man had need. 46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart, 47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

They had all their possessions in common and gave to them who had need. Does this sound like capitalism to you?

That passage was beautiful; but it was describing a church community (all voluntary), not a government (which has a monopoly on use of legal force). Would that be as beautiful if it had been forced?

Going outside of the Bible and into very early Christian history, the historical record shows that the very first monks were also entrepreneurs. They became self-supporting by making things and selling things, just things with their hands, and not for the purpose of amassing a fortune but just to live on. They formed the first communities based only on individual freedom of association. Not family or kinship group.

The first monks dignified work. Before the monks, work had a stigma, because it was something that slaves did. The big cheeses of Greece and Rome did not do it. They were warriors and senators but not workers. They were not merchants, either. They disdained both slaves and merchants. Merchants were disdained because they were too soft and lived too luxurious a life and did not fight. Fighting was how people gained wealth and property and also how they kept it. Working was not how they did it.

I'm only getting started with all of this.

We can't make sense of political theory without talking about history. There has been about 2000 years of history in between now and the NT times.

That would mean talking about Catholic history, one of my favorite subjects, although I am currently without a denomination.

I will talk about Catholic history any time you want. Catholic thinkers laid the foundations for Classical Liberalism, as well as separation of church and state.

 

[FollowTheWay]

Americans have always been patriotic yet avoided fascism. In fact our patriots fought against Hitler's Germany.

Had Hitler gone on to achieve his Third Reich, then it would have been globalism, not nationalism. Would that have made it any better?

I used Hitler's Germany as an example of the danger of extreme nationalism not America. But I believe we're seeing a lessor manifestation of the same spirit here with the election of Trump.

 

[FollowTheWay]

That passage was beautiful; but it was describing a church community (all voluntary), not a government (which has a monopoly on use of legal force). Would that be as beautiful if it had been forced?

Going outside of the Bible and into very early Christian history, the historical record shows that the very first monks were also entrepreneurs. They became self-supporting by making things and selling things, just things with their hands, and not for the purpose of amassing a fortune but just to live on. They formed the first communities based only on individual freedom of association. Not family or kinship group.

The first monks dignified work. Before the monks, work had a stigma, because it was something that slaves did. The big cheeses of Greece and Rome did not do it. They were warriors and senators but not workers. They were not merchants, either. They disdained both slaves and merchants. Merchants were disdained because they were too soft and lived too luxurious a life and did not fight. Fighting was how people gained wealth and property and also how they kept it. Working was not how they did it.

I'm only getting started with all of this.

We can't make sense of political theory without talking about history. There has been about 2000 years of history in between now and the NT times.

That would mean talking about Catholic history, one of my favorite subjects, although I am currently without a denomination.

I will talk about Catholic history any time you want. Catholic thinkers laid the foundations for Classical Liberalism, as well as separation of church and state.

Actually, I made the same mistake that I accuse others of making. I do not believe in the combination of church and state. A better answer from me would be to just leave it at my original statement. no forms of worldly government are recommended in the New Testament.