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Coming Changes to the Critical Greek NT.
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The Changes consisting of attempting to get back to what the inspired originals had written in them
You strike me as adamantly CT only as the KJVO. I apologize if you take offense to this.
Anytime in the modern world where churches have small groups for every gender, I am extremely slow to trust anyone who is improving and correcting the mistakes in the texts.
How much of the changes to be made have you looked at?
What beside this video do you know about it. This is the first time I’ve heard this. Just looking for more information.
It sounds like his book is not out yet.
I am not a CT only, as while see it as being the best text to use, ther MT/Bzt/Tr greek texyts also all are fine, as its more based upon individual preferences and method of translation
So what was your basis for defending the changes?
What do you know about them?
As I mentioned before, I am skeptical of any changes made by a generation that “has small groups for every gender.”
I have not seen any of those changes as of yet, as still just have the NA 28 and UBS 5
I think that one can use the CT/MT/TR Greek texts for serious studies and be confident any of those are word of God to us for today in original language
Nearly 50 minuets to identify 3 changes!
The order of sequence of books is changed. In the NA29/USB6 the NT sequence of books will be:
The second change is the restoration of previously removed verses. They will be restored, but put in double brackets indicating they are uninspired additions. This will restore the verse numbering and remove confusion as to what has been deleted as uninspired text.
The last change are the revisions to the texts of Mark, Acts and Revelation.
The order of sequence of books is changed. In the NA29/USB6 the NT sequence of books will be:
1) Gospels, Matthew Mark Luke and John
2) Acts of the Apostles
3) General Epistles, James, 1 & 2 Peter, 1, 2, &3 John, Jude
4) Pauline Epistles including Hebrews, Romans to 2 Thessalonians, then Hebrews, then 1 & 2 Timothy, Titus and Philemon
5) Revelation
The second change is the restoration of previously removed verses. They will be restored, but put in double brackets indicating they are uninspired additions. This will restore the verse numbering and remove confusion as to what has been deleted as uninspired text.
The last change are the revisions to the texts of Mark, Acts and Revelation.
Dave G
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It seems to me that your thinking on this subject has not changed in the years since I first began posting here, my friend.
Apparently, you're in agreement with those who seemingly cannot point to any Bible and say for sure that it's the inspired word of God in its entirety ( at least as far as the underlying Greek text goes )...that there will always be some refinement to be made regarding the text ( let's leave the translation methods alone for now, as those are another problem, as I see it ).
How is it that you see nothing wrong in what you're ( apparently ) promoting?
I mean, it's not like many of those differences have not been shown to everyone on this forum over the years.
Differences that are, at times, drastic... and change the text of whole sentences ( and some whole sections ) of God's word.
"Attempting to get back to what the inspired originals had written in them" doesn't strike you as terribly wrong, considering that we worship a God who has the immense power to make anything that He wants to, happen?
Dave, we're talking about the Lord God...who created the Heavens and the earth.
Are you saying that He cannot preserve His words for us to see and take comfort in, from generation to generation?
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Dave G
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I don't know how, considering that some of the readings are vastly different depending upon which collated Greek text one uses to translate from.
God, who cannot lie and who says, "I change not", cannot have divinely preserved His words for all generations in differing texts, can He?
I'm sorry, but I simply cannot sit idly by and watch when there are men who seem to be saying that there's nothing wrong with Bibles that, when held up and compared to one another, say things in sometimes absolute disagreement with one another.
What's worse, the Nestle-Aland text is what.... in its 28th! edition, while UBS is in its 5th now?
Again, when, in your estimation, are we going to have a Bible that is most assuredly everything that God intended His people to have?
Do you not believe in the Divine preservation of the Scriptures ?
" The words of the Lord [are] pure words: [as] silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
7 Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever." ( Psalms 12:6-7 ).
There are many of us out here who do believe that we have the inspired words of God already preserved for us in the so-called "Textus Receptus", as well as in Hebrew in the form of the Ben Chayiim "Masoretic" text.
We also believe that anything faithfully and accurately rendered from those texts is indeed, the inspired word of God in its entirety.
My friend, my heart grows profoundly heavy when I read comments like some of the ones I've just read above in this thread.
In any case, I wish the Lord's blessings upon you regardless of our differences.
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As far as presenting the NT books in any specific order, three basis seem valid:
1) In the order written (chronological)
2) In the order found in the early multiple book manuscripts.
3) In the order thought to best present NT theology.
Apparently, number 2 has been used in the revised NA29/NSB6
Or did I miss something?
Second question, does including Hebrews within the Pauline books indicate they have concluded Paul wrote Hebrews? I think not, only that the early manuscripts included Hebrews within those books because the author was thought to have been taught by Paul.
1) In the order written (chronological)
2) In the order found in the early multiple book manuscripts.
3) In the order thought to best present NT theology.
Apparently, number 2 has been used in the revised NA29/NSB6
Or did I miss something?
Second question, does including Hebrews within the Pauline books indicate they have concluded Paul wrote Hebrews? I think not, only that the early manuscripts included Hebrews within those books because the author was thought to have been taught by Paul.