Common Core Program Teaches Kids to Hate Israel [Video]

[righteousdude2]

Zaac doesn't answer questions nor furnish evidence. You're wasting your time.

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[righteousdude2]

Sure it does. Common Core is imbalanced toward Christianity and Judaism and some Islam.
Opinion. If I don't know something, I'll make sure that I let you know.:thumbs:

For what we're talking about, it's a role-playing exercise. The students can include whatever text they want based upon their role. If they want to include competing religious texts, as a basis of defending their position, they may.

Once again, you are speaking out of the side of your mouth. You are like the wizard of oz. You operate from behind the curtain of ambiguity, smoke and mirrors, and ne'er do you address the issues at hand. :type:

 

[Don]

I didn't imply anything. I asked

Look up the definition of "imply." Then please consider answering my question: if it's already imbalanced towards Christianity and Judaism, then which religious texts do YOU think political conservatives want?

Some obviously don't like the current curriculum. So what do you want it changed to?

As in, me personally?

No, but I bet you can tell me.

Everyone's got at least two. Some smell worse than others.

So I will assume given what you just said that they also do likewise for folks in the opposite position. As such, it shouldn't be seen as a problem.

You know what they say about "assume"...why don't you try looking it up?

It's actually a good teaching method to cause people to think about things from another POV.

Even when that point of view says Hamas isn't a terrorist organization?

 

[Zaac]

Look up the definition of "imply." Then please consider answering my question: if it's already imbalanced towards Christianity and Judaism, then which religious texts do YOU think political conservatives want?

Also imbalanced toward Islam. I don't know which one political conservatives want . I would imagine since you left out Islam, yall may want Islam removed.

You know what they say about "assume"...why don't you try looking it up?

No need.

Even when that point of view says Hamas isn't a terrorist organization?

It's an exercise. I'm sure from the Palestinian POV, they aren't a terrorist organization.

 

[Don]

Also imbalanced toward Islam. I don't know which one political conservatives want . I would imagine since you left out Islam, yall may want Islam removed.

But--you're the one who asked if they should switch to the one more desired by political conservatives. If you don't know which one that is, then your question is sheer nonsense.

It's an exercise. I'm sure from the Palestinian POV, they aren't a terrorist organization.

So the question, Zaac, is: What's YOUR point of view? Are they terrorists or not?

Are you satisfied with your children being taught this way?

Or are you possibly being contrary just for the sake of being contrary?

 

[Zaac]

But--you're the one who asked if they should switch to the one more desired by political conservatives. If you don't know which one that is, then your question is sheer nonsense.

Unless political conservatives have a more desired one, the complaints and the thread are nonsense.

So the question, Zaac, is: What's YOUR point of view? Are they terrorists or not?

Why is that the question? My POV has nothing to do with the OP.

Are you satisfied with your children being taught this way?

It's a role-playing exercise. I would imagine, as with role playing exercises, some are asked to approach the exercise from different POVs that may differ from their own. I don't have a problem with that.

If you don't believe it's factual, then take an interest in your child's work and tell them it's just an exercise and not everything they say is necessarily factual.

I tell kids all the time that they have to go beyond what the teachers give them especially as pertains to history and social events as the "facts" are generally skewed. The majority of American History is only partially fact. ANd the majority of social history is only partially factual , all being skewed towards whomever is in control.

Or are you possibly being contrary just for the sake of being contrary?

Do you need a friend , Don? Because if you wanted to ask about my thoughts on Hamas, you could have started another thread and done so. But as to this thread, it's a role playing exercise. Like D&D, kids can be told that the role they are playing isn't necessarily based upon reality.

Critical thinking involves getting people out of their "comfortable" points of view and looking at things from another perspective in order to foster better relations and a possible solution.

 

[Don]

Unless political conservatives have a more desired one, the complaints and the thread are nonsense.

Hey, you're the one that implied political conservatives wanted to change the religious texts in Common Core; you've just failed so far to prove not only that they want to change it, but what they want to change it to.

Why is that the question? My POV has nothing to do with the OP.

Sure it does. If you don't view Hamas as a terrorist organization, then you have no problem with children--in their impressionable years--being told that Hamas is simply a political organization.

It's a role-playing exercise. I would imagine, as with role playing exercises, some are asked to approach the exercise from different POVs that may differ from their own. I don't have a problem with that.

If you don't believe it's factual, then take an interest in your child's work and tell them it's just an exercise and not everything they say is necessarily factual.

I tell kids all the time that they have to go beyond what the teachers give them especially as pertains to history and social events as the "facts" are generally skewed. The majority of American History is only partially fact. ANd the majority of social history is only partially factual , all being skewed towards whomever is in control.

How many kids? How many are yours? And how many, of the millions that are being subjected to this curriculum, have someone like you telling them that, rather than simply being sent off to school for free babysitting?

Do you need a friend , Don? Because if you wanted to ask about my thoughts on Hamas, you could have started another thread and done so. But as to this thread, it's a role playing exercise. Like D&D, kids can be told that the role they are playing isn't necessarily based upon reality.

Critical thinking involves getting people out of their "comfortable" points of view and looking at things from another perspective in order to foster better relations and a possible solution.

It also involves honesty and truth. So we're back to the question: Do YOU believe Hamas is a terrorist organization? If no, you don't, then there's nothing further we need to discuss.

If yes, then how can you call this a critical thinking exercise, when the author has admitted that his goal is to make children believe Hamas is only a political organization?

 

[Revmitchell]

Hamas is a terrorist organization. It is idiocy that says otherwise.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Common core curriculum will be very useful in the near future, when government is the center of everything, and "freedom", and "independence" will be troublesome words.

 

[Zaac]

Hey, you're the one that implied political conservatives wanted to change the religious texts in Common Core; you've just failed so far to prove not only that they want to change it, but what they want to change it to.

I didn't imply anything. I ASKED. :laugh: I wasn't trying to prove they want to change it. They obviously have a problem with it as is. SO what do they want to change it to?

Sure it does. If you don't view Hamas as a terrorist organization, then you have no problem with children--in their impressionable years--being told that Hamas is simply a political organization.

Your opinion. Whether or not I view Hamas as a terrorist organization has NOTHING to do with the OP. You just want it to. You can tell em whatever you want about Hamas. It's a role playing exercise.

If you're not talking to them about Jesus, I really don't care what you tell them about Hamas.

How many kids? How many are yours? And how many, of the millions that are being subjected to this curriculum, have someone like you telling them that, rather than simply being sent off to school for free babysitting?

Again, I don't really care. I have to approach everybody as though they haven't heard the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I can't spend too much time on what kids think about Hamas when they are dying and going to hell.

It also involves honesty and truth. So we're back to the question: Do YOU believe Hamas is a terrorist organization? If no, you don't, then there's nothing further we need to discuss.

It's a role playing exercise. And we're not back to that question because it's irrelevant to the OP and like I said, I don't really care.

If yes, then how can you call this a critical thinking exercise, when the author has admitted that his goal is to make children believe Hamas is only a political organization?

He's not running the exercise. And dependent upon what perspective you want to take, they can be a political organization or whatever else the folks involved in the role playing exercise want them to be.

You obviously want the curriculum to reflect Hamas as a terrorist organization and maybe one of the perspectives allow for that. But as it is a role playing exercise, don't be surprised if another perspective doesn't view them as such.

 

[Don]

I didn't imply anything. I ASKED. [emoji23] I wasn't trying to prove they want to change it. They obviously have a problem with it as is. SO what do they want to change it to?

If that's true, then you worded your original question poorly.

Your opinion. Whether or not I view Hamas as a terrorist organization has NOTHING to do with the OP. You just want it to. You can tell em whatever you want about Hamas. It's a role playing exercise.

Wrong. The opening post is about a segment of the Common Core curriculum that portrays Hamas as nothing more than a political faction--by the admission of the author of that curriculum segment.

If we accept your trivialization, then we might as well say the KKK is nothing more than a social club.

If you're not talking to them about Jesus, I really don't care what you tell them about Hamas.

Then why did you even bother to get involved in this thread?

Again, I don't really care. I have to approach everybody as though they haven't heard the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I can't spend too much time on what kids think about Hamas when they are dying and going to hell.

Good luck doing that in our schools. Let us know how long you keep your teaching job.

It's a role playing exercise. And we're not back to that question because it's irrelevant to the OP and like I said, I don't really care.

Then why do you keep coming back to this thread?

He's not running the exercise. And dependent upon what perspective you want to take, they can be a political organization or whatever else the folks involved in the role playing exercise want them to be.

You obviously want the curriculum to reflect Hamas as a terrorist organization and maybe one of the perspectives allow for that. But as it is a role playing exercise, don't be surprised if another perspective doesn't view them as such.

What I obviously want is TRUTH. It's intellectually dishonest to portray Hamas as only a political faction, ignoring their history and tactics. What you propose is white-washing history just as much as you've indicated has already been done by current history books. You don't seem to appreciate that; why are you willing to let it slide for this?

 

[Zaac]

Wrong. The opening post is about a segment of the Common Core curriculum that portrays Hamas as nothing more than a political faction--by the admission of the author of that curriculum segment.

SO? It's a role playing exercise. So again, you and others apparently have a problem with how Hamas is being portrayed. You got another POV in mind that they should be using?

If we accept your trivialization, then we might as well say the KKK is nothing more than a social club.

For role playing, you feel free to make them a social club.:thumbs:

Then why did you even bother to get involved in this thread?

It certainly wasn't to define Hamas.

Good luck doing that in our schools. Let us know how long you keep your teaching job.

It's a role playing exercise that already includes tenets of CHristianity and Judaism. I think I'd be fine.

Then why do you keep coming back to this thread?

Because you keep asking the same dumb question. :laugh:

What I obviously want is TRUTH. It's intellectually dishonest to portray Hamas as only a political faction, ignoring their history and tactics.

What you want is your perspective of truth taught. So you've answered my question.

What you propose is white-washing history just as much as you've indicated has already been done by current history books. You don't seem to appreciate that; why are you willing to let it slide for this?

It's a role-playing exercise. It's not history. :laugh:

 

[Don]

Okay, Zaac: let's do some role-playing. You tell us why the cops around our country are justified in buying and using military weapons and equipment, especially in situations such as the recent race-related demonstrations.

If you can provide that role-playing perspective, I'll acknowledge that we're making a mountain out of a molehill.

 

[Zaac]

Okay, Zaac: let's do some role-playing. You tell us why the cops around our country are justified in buying and using military weapons and equipment, especially in situations such as the recent race-related demonstrations.

You do understand that role-playing requires that parameters be set before the exercise. What you're asking has nothing to do with role-playing.

If you can provide that role-playing perspective, I'll acknowledge that we're making a mountain out of a molehill.

The issue here is that you don't seem to understand role-playing as a teaching method.

In role -playing, we could make Barack Obama a Muslim President of the United States and ask a team representing Israel how they would respond to his agreement to give Iran a nuclear weapon?

The parameters would be set.

Why cops are justified in buying equipment isn't a role-playing exercise.

 

[Don]

As I thought.

Role-playing in a school setting does NOT, and should not, create and/or use a falsehood as a teaching tool. You obviously don't have kids; and you've obviously never taught.

The parameters for the cops situation are clear; I asked you to take a position contrary to your normal position; thus, role-play the other side. I fully expected you to not engage; I must admit, I was hopeful that you would, and am somewhat disappointed that you chose the route of intellectual dishonesty.

 

[Zaac]

As I thought.

Role-playing in a school setting does NOT, and should not, create and/or use a falsehood as a teaching tool. You obviously don't have kids; and you've obviously never taught.

Umm, it does and it should. That's why it's called role-PLAYING and not HISTORY.

The parameters for the cops situation are clear; I asked you to take a position contrary to your normal position; thus, role-play the other side.

Nope. You asked me for an explanation as seen below:

Okay, Zaac: let's do some role-playing. You tell us why the cops around our country are justified in buying and using military weapons and equipment, especially in situations such as the recent race-related demonstrations.

That's NOT role-playing.

I fully expected you to not engage; I must admit, I was hopeful that you would, and am somewhat disappointed that you chose the route of intellectual dishonesty.

Ohh boo hoo hoo. Cry me a river.

The only intellectual dishonesty taking place is you again trying to manipulate the conversation so that you can hem me in. :laugh:

I can't engage with you if you don't understand the concept you're asking about.

Role-playing is intended to help you understand the other person's point of view. I understand that you GOP types shut down when it comes to any POV other the FOX News generated type.

But it's ridiculously silly of you to sit here and chide me about intellectual dishonesty when you intellectually are misunderstanding the concept of role-playing.