Communism Survivor Destroys "Gun Control" Law Makers

[Revmitchell]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=976862035800009

 

[1689Dave]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=976862035800009

How does this relate to the Christian's role in the world?

 

[Adonia]

How does this relate to the Christian's role in the world?

Because Christians just may have to fight evil once again, this time the evil that could be perpetrated by our own government if the "progressives" ever had complete and total governmental power.

 

[1689Dave]

Because Christians just may have to fight evil once again, this time the evil that could be perpetrated by our own government if the "progressives" ever had complete and total governmental power.

But Paul tells us to be subject to the government. Never to defend it. And whatever government takes control, that's our government.

 

[Revmitchell]

B And whatever government takes control, that's our government.

Wrong!

 

[carpro]

How does this relate to the Christian's role in the world?

This is the news and current events forum and it belongs here. Most of the subjects here will not meet your criteria.

Not to be rude, but hang out somewhere else if you don't like news you get here. It is what it is and you don't have to participate.

 

[church mouse guy]

But Paul tells us to be subject to the government. Never to defend it. And whatever government takes control, that's our government.

You would like Cuba?

 

[Matt Black]

But Paul tells us to be subject to the government. Never to defend it. And whatever government takes control, that's our government.

What about Nazi Germany? Would you have been subject to that?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

A good read on this would be Dietrick Bonhoeffer... with his struggles in Nazi Germany during WW2

 

[1689Dave]

What about Nazi Germany? Would you have been subject to that?

Would you have helped Herod kill all the babies? But this is an interesting thought. Had pro violence Christians not helped Hitler enmasse, and followed the Sermon on the Mount instead as I and few others do, Hitler would not have done anywhere near the damage they helped him accomplish.

 

[1689Dave]

You would like Cuba?

Paul lived under Nero = far worse than any. Yet he told his listeners to submit.

 

[1689Dave]

This is the news and current events forum and it belongs here. Most of the subjects here will not meet your criteria.

Not to be rude, but hang out somewhere else if you don't like news you get here. It is what it is and you don't have to participate. Shouldn't people have free speech? Freedom to disagree?

 

[I Love An Atheist]

But Paul tells us to be subject to the government. Never to defend it. And whatever government takes control, that's our government.

And Jesus tells us we cannot serve two masters.

 

[church mouse guy]

Paul lived under Nero = far worse than any. Yet he told his listeners to submit.

Nero was not worse than Castro. Look what the Cubans did in Angola.

 

[church mouse guy]

Would you have helped Herod kill all the babies? But this is an interesting thought. Had pro violence Christians not helped Hitler enmasse, and followed the Sermon on the Mount instead as I and few others do, Hitler would not have done anywhere near the damage they helped him accomplish.

First you say support the government and then you say that Christian's should not have supported Hitler. Are you eating your cake or not?

 

[1689Dave]

Nero was not worse than Castro. Look what the Cubans did in Angola.

Look at what the Romans did to Christians and Jerusalem.

 

[1689Dave]

And Jesus tells us we cannot serve two masters.

So? Would you violate Christ's word if the State demanded it?

 

[I Love An Atheist]

Paul lived under Nero = far worse than any. Yet he told his listeners to submit.

And instruction of Paul's cannot be trumped by any other commands or instructions given by God or Jesus Christ? Why, then, did some Christians become martyrs under the Roman empire?

Also, I'm curious how you can be any denomination of Protestant? Historically, the Protestants rebelled against the Pope, who set himself up as the Vicar of Christ on Earth, with authority given to him through apostolic succession?

I think we have to look at the whole scripture and figure out how it can all be consistent internally. Some instructions are in a more limited context. Others are always universal and timeless.

The basics must override the details. What Christ instructed must always override anything else, especially if it was very clear and very plain and very basic.

We must not step over dollars to pick up pennies.

 

[I Love An Atheist]

So? Would you violate Christ's word if the State demanded it?

No.

 

[1689Dave]

First you say support the government and then you say that Christian's should not have supported Hitler. Are you eating your cake or not?

Paul tells us to obey the civil magistrate in Romans 13. Do you agree? Peter and John say not to if the magistrate demands that you sin Acts 4:19.