Computer doesn't shut off

[Margie Kritzer]

98 isn't much different from 2000ME.

Sherrie: Windows 98 is like a less stable version of Windows 2000 without the price tag. Windows ME is a somewhat unstable, somewhat uncooperative precursor to Windows XP. What we don't like about the latter is the user's inability to easily access explorer and other such administrative functions...however, I'll admit that I DO like the automatic thumbnail preview function...

 

[LindaB]

Don
here is a url wher you can buy a program for 98 and ME (20.00)
http://www.wekasoft.com/taskmanager/
there is a free download, but its in german
Linda

 

[jeronimo]

Originally posted by Sherrie:

My son has XP and is well pleased with it. I will let you know exactly how I feel about it. I am looking forward to it crashing less (no more). I am really hoping that a lot of the problems I have had with this ME will not be with the XP.

I don't think you'll have all the crashes with XP as you ME has had. When we bought a new computer ME came with it. That computer locked up about 3 times a day. We loaded XP and it hasn't locked up really at all since we loaded in onto the computer.

My computer has XP, and I do NOT like it. It causes me trouble all the time. Maybe someone can help me with this problem. About 40% of the time my computer loads my system locks up. I login, and after I login my desktop and icons show up. Once it tries to load some system files or something like that, my computer locks up and refuses to boot. I have to manually shut it down in order to unlock it. Anyone have suggestions?

 

[Son of Consolation]

Originally posted by Don: Barnabas, were you able to find any of the info I asked for?

Sorry Don, but I could not find the things you were discriging. No lettering even familiar with what you've stated. By now I visited Microsoft's webiste where they offer help, but each time I went through their recommendation there were two questions: did it help or still having problem? I still had problems, the computer wouldn't shut down. Well, since I spent a half day trying to do what they described on their website, I got tired and gave up. Beside, I do not have time to play with this computer....

Right now we have guests here with us from New Hampshire, and cannot play with the unit. Maybe next week I will try it again. Thanks for the offer Don about emailing you. I may do just that. God bless!

 

[Gina B]

Probably a Windows 98 thing, cuz mine has done that a number of times in the past. More often than not it won't wake up from standby either.
I found that getting rid of ANYTHING with the name Norton helped EVERYTHING.
But still haven't figured out why it freezes on shutdown sometimes. But I've always just pushed the button to turn it off and it was fine on restart.
So the point is...let me know when you find out what's wrong with yours so I can fix mine too!

Gina

 

[Baptist Believer]

Originally posted by Don:
Bible Believer, your network administrator is probably using a "password enforcer" program, and probably has it set to the highest level (meaning, you MUST use an upper case, lower case, special character, and number in your password, and you MUST NOT use anything that could remotely be found in the dictionary. And that usually includes the English dictionary, Russian, Klingon, and a few other dictionaries).

No, they do not. This problem only occurs on Windows XP computers and our computer services department doesn't know why they are having this problem.

 

[Don]

Well, cool.

I'll ask around and see if any of my counterparts have a clue.

 

[jcrowe]

Windows 98 has been known to have this shutdown problem. Here is a link to help you solve the problem.

Thanks,
Jason

 

[InHim2002]

Windows 98 is like a less stable version of Windows 2000 without the price tag. Windows ME is a somewhat unstable, somewhat uncooperative precursor to Windows XP.

Windows 98/ME and Windows 2000/XP are fundementally different operating systems - for one thing the file system is totally different (98/ME use FAT32 and 2000/XP use NTFS). The user interface is fairly similar but under the hood they are very different animals.

What we don't like about the latter is the user's inability to easily access explorer and other such administrative functions...

If you are using XP or 2000 you can easily restrict access to directories and programmes - I don't know quite what setup you have but assuming that you have a different user profiles I don't see why this would be an issue (unless you meant to write former rather than latter in which case I am talking nonsense!)

And for those that are familiar and/or dealing with IIS -- don't use it. Period. Unless, of course, you don't mind dealing with the fact that it's completely unsecure.

I am not sure what you mean by this - are you referring to the Steve Gibson open raw sockets thing??? - because that would only be a problem is your computer was compromised in the first place, but that doesn't really have anything to do with IIS anyway

About 40% of the time my computer loads my system locks up. I login, and after I login my desktop and icons show up. Once it tries to load some system files or something like that, my computer locks up and refuses to boot. I have to manually shut it down in order to unlock it. Anyone have suggestions?

I would start by checking the bootlog and look through the event viewer to see if there are any warning messages (start - programmes - administrative tools - event viewer ) that will tell you if anything is failing during startup or if there are other problems. Usually this type of problem is caused by software conflicts (eg running a network and mcAfee has caused me similar problems in the past) or by hardware problems (eg RAM becoming unseated etc)

still had problems, the computer wouldn't shut down.

unplug it

[ October 15, 2002, 07:07 AM: Message edited by: InHim2002 ]

 

[ForYourGlory]

Much to my sadness my computer for the last three days will not shut down on it's own again. When I did what Clint suggested it worked, at least it did for a day or two, and then it started again. It also at times just freezes up and wont respond and then I have to flip the switch and then wait a while and turn it back on again. Then I get the wonderful message "Because Windows was not shut down properly....." It's starting to get old! It's only been in the last month or so that it has been doing this. I will look through the trouble shooting again and see what I can do. I am by no means a computer expert here! And yes, I too have Windows 98.
God bless,
FYG

P.S.
Anybody got a match?

[ October 15, 2002, 10:17 AM: Message edited by: ForYourGlory ]

 

[Sherrie]

Have any of you gone to Windows update and installed anything new that might help with your problem. Sometimes it can help. Or sometimes when you have downloaded a program that does not get along with windows starting up or shuting down, it will mess up.

Sherrie

 

[GloryBound]

Originally posted by Clint Kritzer:
We have a CD-RW, well worth the costs! I can back up this entire hard drive on 4 discs. You can even save your internet favorites list with it.

Brother Clint, I have a CD-RW also and have a 40gig hard drive that has a ton of graphics and other things I would not want lost in a crash. Been there done that before!

I try to keep most of my favorite creations on CD's but a lot are still on my computer. Would you give me a step by step on how to backup my hard drive on a CD? I have plenty of CD-R's and CD-RW's on hand and need to know which is best to use for the backup. My OP is Windows 98 Second Edition and I use Adaptec software. Any help you can give me will surely be appreciated.

A hard drive crash is like having all 4 tires on your car blow out all at the same time! You just sit there in disbelief! Been there done that TOO!


~~GloryBound

 

[Clint Kritzer]

Hi GloryBound -

I, too use Adaptec software. Adaptec changed ownership last year or so and the software may have altered but for our purposes, I think the instructions should be the same.

Open the Adaptec program and select "Create CD." When you are given the choice, select "Data."

The Window will open with the Windows Explorer index on top, the selected files index below and at the bottom of that window a bar graph showing total megabytes used. I have found that a disc will max out at about 600.

Keep selecting the files you need to save from the tree. You can either select the items and click "Add" or you can drag the files to the selected files window. Once you have filled the selected files window click "create CD."

For your graphics files you can drag the entire folder down to the selection window. If you want to save your Internet explorer favorites, open "Windows" on the tree and drag down the "Favorites" folder.

I created a file in my Windows explorer for set up files and zips so that I do not need to save entire programs but rather just those .app files.

You can save yourself a lot of hassle by going through your Windows explorer program and dragging things into a common file before you start. Also, if you have a program like AOL and you want to save your filing cabinet, open the filing cabinet and right click the file or folder you want to save and you will be given the option.

One other peice of advice is that you reboot before you start the process and reboot again when you're done. Adaptec tends to devour the system resources on this hard drive and things can freeze up quickly.

I also use the Adeptec software for creating jewel cases to make a viewable index on a jewel case cover so I know which back up is which and what date it was created.

One other thing, if you go to reinstall your Adaptec software after you reformat, use the older disc rather that their website which opens up automatically when you insert the CD. Click out of that window, go to My Computer, right click the "D" drive (if that's your CD-ROM drive) and click "explore." Then click "EasyCD" and then "setup". The older software is more versatile. After the Napster case, Adaptec added some kind of copyright protector.

As for discs, from what I understand, a disc is a disc is a disc.

 

[GloryBound]

Originally posted by Clint Kritzer:
Hi GloryBound -
As for discs, from what I understand, a disc is a disc is a disc.

Thank you Brother Clint. I have printed out your directions and will backup my system just as soon as I feel up to it.

As for discs, I use a lot of both but since there is a quite difference in price I will use the CD-R's for this task if it does not matter which is used. Thank you so much for taking the time to post those directions for me!

GloryBound

 

[Helen]

Didn't take the time to read everything here, but my computer was freezing at points, too and my son came and checked it out and said, "Don't use it until I come back, Mom. Your hard drive is about to crash."

So I didn't. I've been using the old one instead. He came today, installed the new hard drive, and this baby is working like a dream...