Concealed weapons

[Salty]

Should students be allowed concealed wepons on campus?

http://www.concealedcampus.org/press.htm

 

[billreber]

I have known for a long time that it is not the GUN that kills someone, but the person beyond the trigger!

I have also known for decades that the drive to remove guns from (anywhere/any location) results not from a desire for safety, but from the Evil One, who wishes to disrupt lives in any way he can.

Whe I was in junior high school (middle school to many areas - grades 7 to 9), I was a member of the rifle club. We received instruction in how to safely handle guns, in the school building, after normal school hours. In fact, we had a small rifle range in the basement of the school! We NEVER had a school shooting episode (such as Columbine)! There were too many of us trained on how to use a weapon.

Violence on campus (or in a mall, or at any location) is less likely to happen when there are trained people (concealed weapon permit holders)who might have the ability to stop the violent person(s). People are VERY much less likely to start shooting others, when they know THEY will be shot quickly, very soon after they open fire.

Bill :godisgood:

 

[just-want-peace]

I have known for a long time that it is not the GUN that kills someone, but the person beyond the trigger!

I have also known for decades that the drive to remove guns from (anywhere/any location) results not from a desire for safety, but from the Evil One, who wishes to disrupt lives in any way he can.
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Violence on campus (or in a mall, or at any location) is less likely to happen when there are trained people (concealed weapon permit holders)who might have the ability to stop the violent person(s). People are VERY much less likely to start shooting others, when they know THEY will be shot quickly, very soon after they open fire.

Bill :godisgood:

BINGO!!!

Those who are so adamantly against guns, certainly should not have guns, as these are the very ones most apt to do precisely what they accuse every other gun owner/carrier of wanting to do!!

The rest of us can then protect them and others when needed.:thumbs:

 

[windcatcher]

Ditto!
Ditto!

 

[menageriekeeper]

Hmmm, I carried when I was in college (though at that time the danger was in the driving and not on campus so mostly the gun was left in the car). Why wouldn't I want to extend that privlege to my soon to be college age daughter?

 

[Sopranette]

I firmly believe if more qualified and responsible people carryied a weapon, there would be far fewer mass killings, anywere where people gather in large numbers. "An armed society is a polite society".

love,

Sopranette

 

[chuck2336]

I agree with all that is being said. BUT working in the healthcare field I see how more and more young people are fighting stress related issues that cause them to react in less than "normal" ranges. In other words they are not dealing with it well at all, some ned medication to help them. Most folks can control the emotions, some do well for a while but snap because of a bad grade or some notion of a wrong doing. I am not sure granting students a concealed weapons permit during this violent emotion time is wise. I know that most would be fine, most of the time but I have seen too many breakdowns in normally well adjusted young people to be confortable with that.

Teachers I am fine with, with some reservation simply becasue I had a few profs I KNEW was ready for the padded room!

:laugh:

 

[Tom Butler]

I think anybod who wants to carry a gun should be able to under reasonable conditions. But if you do, you'd better be willing to use it. And you should take training.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

In Montana, women can carry a pistol in their purse without a permit. This makes for a very safe U. of M. campus.

 

[just-want-peace]

I agree with all that is being said. BUT working in the healthcare field I see how more and more young people are fighting stress related issues that cause them to react in less than "normal" ranges. In other words they are not dealing with it well at all, some ned medication to help them. Most folks can control the emotions, some do well for a while but snap because of a bad grade or some notion of a wrong doing. I am not sure granting students a concealed weapons permit during this violent emotion time is wise. I know that most would be fine, most of the time but I have seen too many breakdowns in normally well adjusted young people to be confortable with that.

Teachers I am fine with, with some reservation simply becasue I had a few profs I KNEW was ready for the padded room!

:laugh:

You seem to be describing the same characters who have already done their damage. The fact of being illegal didn't stop them then, & it won't stop those with the same mindset now.

However, if others are carrying, then the carnage can be minimized, and the innocents will have a fighting chance.

But if you do, you'd better be willing to use it. And you should take training.

Definitely agree - if you are too reluctant to use it, it could prove to be a liability rather than an asset.

And the time for that decision is long before you begin carrying!!!

 

[JustChristian]

I have known for a long time that it is not the GUN that kills someone, but the person beyond the trigger!

I have also known for decades that the drive to remove guns from (anywhere/any location) results not from a desire for safety, but from the Evil One, who wishes to disrupt lives in any way he can.

Whe I was in junior high school (middle school to many areas - grades 7 to 9), I was a member of the rifle club. We received instruction in how to safely handle guns, in the school building, after normal school hours. In fact, we had a small rifle range in the basement of the school! We NEVER had a school shooting episode (such as Columbine)! There were too many of us trained on how to use a weapon.

Violence on campus (or in a mall, or at any location) is less likely to happen when there are trained people (concealed weapon permit holders)who might have the ability to stop the violent person(s). People are VERY much less likely to start shooting others, when they know THEY will be shot quickly, very soon after they open fire.

Bill :godisgood:

I was a substitute teacher in an inner city area for only about 3 months in 1971 but I saw:

1) Armed guards at the doors of one school,

2) Another school in which they brought a kid into my class with handcuffs on, took them off, and said there you go!

3) Another school where a child threatened to break out all the glass from my car.

All of these were Junior High Schools.

I don't think, however, that teachers should carry concealed weapons into such an environment. When the teachers escalate the kids will escalate back in response.You're just asking for someone to be killed. I'd vote for the armed guards at the door if necessary.