Confederate Flag Display

I don't own one now but I use to hang a bandana that had one on it in the rear window of my 73 Ford pickup when I was a VERY young wannabe redneck...(Can you believe it?) But for me the flag means something to me other then what it does for most people. I have ancestors who fought and died in both sides of the war. My great great great grandfather was an MD who was a POW and scheduled to be executed in St. Louis due to a paperwork mixup. It was all worked out and he was not executed and later was involved in a POW trade. Seven union soldiers were also executed on his property - Curtman Island, in Miller County. About 8 years ago I found the island and the spot where they were executed and I also found their graves in another town. The flag to me is a reminder of my heratige on both sides...nothing more and nothing less.

 

Now, I know we have the "freedom" to fly what we want---including flags of "Phantom" nations---but let me ask a question

Suppose the Confeds would have won??? Do you suppose the freedom to fly the "Stars and Stripes" today would have been a "guarantee" in that particular constitution back then?? Could your so called Confederate States of America---give me a constitutional right to fly my Stars and Stripes---even as a flag of "reminder of heritage??"

 

I personally believe that they would have...but I also believe that would have been up to the state more then it would have been up to the Confederacy. One thing to also consider is that if the Confederacy were around today there would probably be at least one state if not more where any type of abortion at any term would probably be prohibited!....least I'd like to think so...they definitely would have had the power to do so!

 

Neither is the confederate flag. It's part of the history of the proud South. </font>[/QUOTE]Is the swastika a part of the history of a proud Germany? </font>[/QUOTE]Are you seriously comparing the two?? Are you comparing the old South to the Natzi's?? (sp?)
I don't think they are anything alike at all!!
I don't agree with slavery though.

Rachel

 

Just a simple question.

 

I don't know too much about German history. Don't American indians use that same symbol for something? Did Germany have that symbol prior to Hitler's evil reign? If so did that stand for something else before him and he perverted it? Or did Hitler make that part of his agenda for evil? I always have attributed it to Hitler and his followers and didn't consider it part of the history of a proud Germany. I don't know, I never really looked into it.

Rachel

 

"I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccessful rebellions, indeed, generally establish the encroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions as not to discourage them too much. It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government." - Thomas Jefferson

 

One thing I believe w/o a doubt. There would be no BLOATED federal beauracrecy like we have now!

 

Part of the history? Yes.
Are we proud of it? NO
It should serve as a lesson of what not to fall prey to ever again. Kind of like that other flag you're talking about.

 

No Way!

A Yank

 

Just wants peace says, "One thing I believe without a doubt. There would be no BLOATED federal beauracrecy like we have now!"

Is that beyond a "Shadow" of a doubt, Peace?????

 

Not everyone in the South acted like that! Were the Northerners even close to perfect?

Boy a few years ago I would have really lost it reading some of these posts. God has really been working on me.

 

Some still cannot succumb to the past.

 

Most who fly a confederate flag opt for the one that was commonly used as a battle flag. It represents a time in our nations history during which Americans took up arms and killed each other. We need to remember our history, but that war has been over for 159 years.
I have been from Florida to Alaska to California to Maine (haven't made it to Hawaii ... yet). Every where I go I meet fellow Americans. Our common ground is the national unity represented by the Stars and Stripes.

 

Yep!!

Simply because the "States Rights " issue would have prevailed, WITH the right of secession.

Now I'm not saying that the Fed would have been perfect, but the states would have had a redress capability that is non-existant now!

Therefore, although the Fed may have gotten power beyond the "constitutional" limits, it would not be the bloated monster that now exists.

But then again, some slick-tongued politician could have persuaded the masses that their safety was totally dependent on him (politician), & we could have just as big of a mess as now!?

So who knows?

That's one (of about 10 zillion) question I have when I get to Heaven; "What if--?"

 

Agreed.

I would say there were no more racists in the Confederate army than in the Union army. Most people back then were racist to some extent.

However, regardless of what people might say about the reason behind the war, states' rights or slavery, the men who fought for the Confederacy did so in defense of their homes and their states. Your state defined who you were more than your country. Kind of like how most Texans feel today, which is why many people say we are stuck-up.

Anyway, racist groups such as the KKK, neo-Nazis, Aryan Brotherhood, etc, have taken the flag fought bravely under by those home-defenders and turned it into a despised, hated rag looked upon as being the symbol of hate and racism by many people.

The flag was what joined the several southern states together, and was looked on as a symbol of southern unity rather than as the symbol of racism that people use it for today.

Besides, if we are going to hate a flag just because racist groups use them, then you must also look upon the Christian flag and the US flag with disdain as both are used by the KKK and other groups.

Yes, BTW, I do have a Confederate battle flag hanging in my room. It's right next to the Stars and Stripes on the other wall.

I also have a picture of the tattered Confederate flag that my g-g-g-grandfather served under as my desktop picture. (34th Alabama Infantry)