Confronting the fallacies of #NEVERTRUMP

[TCassidy]

Yep, would work for a few years until the insurance companies set up in sanctuary states with favorable laws whereupon they would all move their HQ's to those handful of states and we'd be back to square one.

What part of "then the federal government will have to step in" didn't you understand?

 

[TCassidy]

And how do you know he won't change his mind? He changes his mind on a daily basis.

How do we know Obama won't nuke Ohio? How do we know Hillary won't open a brothel in the White House? How do we know Aliens from Planet Mongo won't invade? How do we know Canada won't buy all the northern border states?

How do we know? How do we know? Well, Duh! We don't, unless maybe you have a crystal ball.

But what we do have is a form of government with something called "Checks and Balances" that mitigate the damage any of the three branches may do, and provide a remedy in the event that damage rises to a serious enough level.

 

[Revmitchell]

Trump wants to make it easier to sue, to "loosen the libel laws". This means weakening the First Amendment.

Manufacturing jobs have decreased because of automation and productivity gains, not because of regulations and taxes.

Baloney



Reagan and the Bush's have picked four bad justices. Given that Trump is more liberal than those former presidents, why would Trump's record be any better?[/QUOTE]

Baloney

 

[InTheLight]

Baloney

Reagan and the Bush's have picked four bad justices. Given that Trump is more liberal than those former presidents, why would Trump's record be any better?

Baloney

Awesome rebuttals.

 

[Revmitchell]

Reagan and the Bush's have picked four bad justices. Given that Trump is more liberal than those former presidents, why would Trump's record be any better?



Awesome rebuttals.

Trump is not liberal he is an opportunist. My rebuttals are in line with what I responded to. Look automation is more of a recent event. The heavy regulations and taxes have been an issue far longer. All of the so called green regulations are nothing more than a ploy to cut down on private enterprise to have an excuse to gain control of production by the government. What is happening is exactly what progressives want. They want less and less private enterprise. The lack of discernment by folks like yourself allows this.

 

[InTheLight]

Look automation is more of a recent event. .

Define recent.
Five years?
Ten years?
Fifteen years?
Twenty years?

What?

 

[Smyth]

He is right and I agree with him. We have a healthcare crisis in this country and Obamacare is only making it worse (as well as being a windfall profits scheme for the insurance companies so they have more money to buy politicians).

The government has made healthcare and insurance UNAFFORDABLE FOR EVERY AMERICAN who would have to pay out-of-pocket, practically speaking. The Republican party is, as usual, worthless (aside from displacing bad Democrats).

Republican should embrace Obamacare, and use it as cover to advance cost-lowering free market changes. The core of Obamacare is Tax Credits for the working-class to buy insurance. That should be kept, while Republicans fight to deregulate the insurance and medical industries. (The Obamacare bill increased regulation.)

And by repealing the laws that forbid insurance companies from doing business across state lines (laws paid for by the insurance companies to limit competition in the major markets) we will save a ton of money.

I don't disagree, but do you have any ideas that don't favor bigger business? How about letting insurance companies have free reign in designing their polices? How about tort reform to reduce medical liability costs?

 

[TCassidy]

do you have any ideas that don't favor bigger business?

Uh, all of them? Single payer completely bypasses the insurance companies.

 

[Smyth]

Uh, all of them? Single payer completely bypasses the insurance companies.

Yes, because the government is so efficient and not oppressive? Or, do you want Christian doctors to be forced to preform abortions and sex changes? You want hospital chaplains to only be those Christians who approve of same-sex marriage? You want merit hiring in hospitals to be replaced with minority quotas? You think the government has done so well so far with medical care that you want the government to have more control.

 

[TCassidy]

Yes, because the government is so efficient and not oppressive?

As opposed to the profits taken by the big Insurance companies?

Or, do you want Christian doctors to be forced to preform abortions and sex changes?

Where did I say that?

You want hospital chaplains to only be those Christians who approve of same-sex marriage?

Where did I say that?

You want merit hiring in hospitals to be replaced with minority quotas?

Where did I say that?

You think the government has done so well so far with medical care that you want the government to have more control.

Where did I say that?

In all seriously, do you suffer from ADD or something? You seem to be having great trouble reading what I post, understanding it, and responding accordingly to what I actually said vice what you seem to have (mis)understood.

 

[Revmitchell]

As opposed to the profits taken by the big Insurance companies?

Where did I say that?

Where did I say that?

Where did I say that?

Where did I say that?

In all seriously, do you suffer from ADD or something? You seem to be having great trouble reading what I post, understanding it, and responding accordingly to what I actually said vice what you seem to have (mis)understood.

Do you think the mistake is his posts or the fact that you continue to respond to his posts.

 

[TCassidy]

Do you think the mistake is his posts or the fact that you continue to respond to his posts.

Probably both. But I do tend to be an optimist, hoping he will, sooner or later, make sense.

 

[Smyth]

As opposed to the profits taken by the big Insurance companies?

Competition fixes excessive profits. Insurance companies should be, can be, a thin layer of bureaucracy over the medical system..

You said you want to completely bypass insurance companies and have a single payer system. I.e. you want to give the government to full control of our healthcare. What do you think that means? Government is a thick layer of bureaucracy which has turned to persecuting Christians in recent years .

Tax credits to pay for insurance (like Obamacare) is the right approach. Unfortunately, the government morons you want to run the country's medical system took the opportunity to attach to Obamacare more restrictions on competition -- this last issue is one of the things Republicans should work on fixing.

With your encouragement, I can count on the Republicans to continue to be useless.

 

[Jedi Knight]

 

[TCassidy]

Competition fixes excessive profits. Insurance companies should be, can be, a thin layer of bureaucracy over the medical system..

You said you want to completely bypass insurance companies and have a single payer system. I.e. you want to give the government to full control of our healthcare. What do you think that means? Government is a thick layer of bureaucracy which has turned to persecuting Christians in recent years .

Tax credits to pay for insurance (like Obamacare) is the right approach. Unfortunately, the government morons you want to run the country's medical system took the opportunity to attach to Obamacare more restrictions on competition -- this last issue is one of the things Republicans should work on fixing.

With your encouragement, I can count on the Republicans to continue to be useless.

You really didn't understand a thing I wrote, did you?

 

[Rolfe]

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[Benjamin]

Confronting the fallacies of #NEVERTRUMP

Well, I see I certainly won't have time to confront and explain all the fallacies of the #NeverTrump-ers here, ...for those few who even bothered to address the topic...