Congressman calls evolution lie from 'pit of hell'

[Revmitchell]

ATHENS, Georgia – A Republican lawmaker said in videotaped remarks that evolution, embryology and the Big Bang theory are "lies straight from the pit of hell" meant to convince people that they do not need a savior.

Georgia Rep. Paul Broun made those comments during a speech Sept. 27 at a sportsman's banquet at Liberty Baptist Church in Hartwell. Broun, a medical doctor, is running for re-election in November unopposed by Democrats.

"God's word is true," Broun said, according to a video posted on the church's website. "I've come to understand that. All that stuff I was taught about evolution and embryology and Big Bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of hell. And it's lies to try to keep me and all the folks who are taught that from understanding that they need a savior."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ls-evolution-lie-from-pit-hell/#ixzz28ZTJm6NI

 

[Arbo]

If evolution isn't true, it's a ____.

 

[preachinjesus]

He probably serves on the science committee right next to Congressman Akin.

I'm just sad that a church gave him a platform to abuse like this.

 

[Bronconagurski]

ATHENS, Georgia – A Republican lawmaker said in videotaped remarks that evolution, embryology and the Big Bang theory are "lies straight from the pit of hell" meant to convince people that they do not need a savior.

Georgia Rep. Paul Broun made those comments during a speech Sept. 27 at a sportsman's banquet at Liberty Baptist Church in Hartwell. Broun, a medical doctor, is running for re-election in November unopposed by Democrats.

"God's word is true," Broun said, according to a video posted on the church's website. "I've come to understand that. All that stuff I was taught about evolution and embryology and Big Bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of hell. And it's lies to try to keep me and all the folks who are taught that from understanding that they need a savior."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ls-evolution-lie-from-pit-hell/#ixzz28ZTJm6NI

So what do you think? Is evolution true?

 

[Gregory Perry Sr.]

Huh????

He probably serves on the science committee right next to Congressman Akin.

I'm just sad that a church gave him a platform to abuse like this.

PLEASE tell me you are being facetious!!!! I wish more politicians had the convictions and the nerve to get up and tell the truth like that. Our country might not be in the shape it is if they did. Evolution is a Satanic Lie That contradicts the absolute authority of the Word of God beginning with the true history found in Genesis chapters 1-11. If you can't believe the Bible beginning there then you have no grounds for believing the rest of the Book is true.

Bro.Greg:type:

 

[Crabtownboy]

Embryology? From hell?

The branch of biology that deals with the formation, early growth, and development of living organisms.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/embryology

Obviously the man does not even know what the word means. What astounding ignorance!

Anyone that ignorant in one area of science is surely just as ignorant in other areas. Yes, it does strike as ignorant at Akin's comment or rape and pregnancy.

May the good Lord help us survive such ignorant politicians.

This fellow and many others do not realize that while the Bible contains no errors that their interpretation contains many errors ... and that is true for all of us. For a person to believe their interpretation is without error is arrogance beyond belief.

 

[Oldtimer]

PLEASE tell me you are being facetious!!!! I wish more politicians had the convictions and the nerve to get up and tell the truth like that. Our country might not be in the shape it is if they did. Evolution is a Satanic Lie That contradicts the absolute authority of the Word of God beginning with the true history found in Genesis chapters 1-11. If you can't believe the Bible beginning there then you have no grounds for believing the rest of the Book is true.

Bro.Greg:type:

DITTO!

Frankly, it amazes me when born again Christians constantly complain about the direction government leaders are taking this country. Yet, when a leader stands for the Bible, many find ways to find fault - to tear him down. No wonder few speak up. No wonder few run for office in the first place.

No wonder God fearing pastors are leaving the pulpit. No wonder they are being replaced with "feel good" preachers who don't step on anyone's toes.

Amos 8: KJB

11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord God, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the Lord:

12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the Lord, and shall not find it.

Revelaton 3: KJB

15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.

16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

 

[Oldtimer]

Embryology? From hell?

Obviously the man does not even know what the word means. What astounding ignorance!
Anyone that ignorant in one area of science is surely just as ignorant in other areas. Yes, it does strike as ignorant at Akin's comment or rape and pregnancy.

May the good Lord help us survive such ignorant politicians.

This fellow and many others do not realize that while the Bible contains no errors that their interpretation contains many errors ... and that is true for all of us. For a person to believe their interpretation is without error is arrogance beyond belief.

You've got to be kidding!

"Broun, a medical doctor"
"He sits on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology."

Darwin's evidence for evolution: Embryology
C. Darwin extrapolates this to larger groups: For example, the forelimbs might be legs in an ancestral species, but would be modified as flippers, arms, wings, etc. at a late stage in development; but the pattern in the embryonic stage would remain similar if not unchanged.
http://www.nyu.edu/projects/fitch/courses/evolution/html/embryology.html

The study of one type of evidence of evolution is called embryology, the study of embryos.
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This shows that the animals are similar and that they develop similarly, implying that they are related, have common ancestors and that they started out the same, gradually evolving different traits, but that the basic plan for a creature's beginning remains the same.
http://www.necsi.edu/projects/evolution/evidence/embryos/evidence_embryo.html

“Haeckel's much-criticized embryo drawings are important as phylogenetic hypotheses, teaching aids, and evidence for evolution.” “Haeckel's ABC of evolution and development.” Biological Reviews, Cambridge Philosophical Society. 2002 Nov; 77(4):495-528.
http://home.honolulu.hawaii.edu/~pine/book1qts/embryo-compare.html

Embryos, Genes, and Evolution. The Developmental – Genetic Basis of Evolutionary Change. [Hardcover] http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000VQ763M/?tag=baptis04-20

This is a Vertebrate Embryology course, so you may ask, "why have information on evolution?" Well..... as it turns out, comparative embryology (the structural comparison of embryos from different phylogenetic groups) offers some of the best evidence that evolution on a geological time scale has occurred. As a starting point, we need to define evolution.
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Thus, Comparative Embryology provides strong support for the hypothesis that Darwin put forth to explain the apparent similarities and differences he saw among different species, i.e. that these species are the result of an evolutionary process involving selection (now known to be gene based) for structural and metabolic processes that were advantageous to an organism's reproductive success.
http://www.auburn.edu/academic/classes/zy/vert_embryo/html/001EvolutionF2000.html

Anatomical clues to human evolution from fish

How the human face develops in an embryo at two to three months old.

It may seem strange that humans have evolved from fish, but the evidence can be found not just in fossils but also within our own bodies.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13278255

These are just a few of the many, many, many links available that supports Broun's statements on evolution theories and embroyology.

-- Only an evil person would want to kill Big Bird! --

Uhmmmmm.............. Best left unsaid.

 

[Crabtownboy]

You've got to be kidding!

"Broun, a medical doctor"
"He sits on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology."

As I said, "May the good Lord save us from such ignorance."

It does not matter what committee he sits on, ignorance is still ignorance.

 

[Revmitchell]

Yes may the Lord save us from the astounding ignorance of evolution.

 

[Oldtimer]

As I said, "May the good Lord save us from such ignorance."

It does not matter what committee he sits on, ignorance is still ignorance.

Embryology? From hell?

Quote:
The branch of biology that deals with the formation, early growth, and development of living organisms.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/embryology

Obviously the man does not even know what the word means. What astounding ignorance!

How much more evidence do you need to confirm that embryology is used as "evidence" for evolution. From grade school I was taught that embryo studies provided proof of evolution. Even though one of the examples used for this proof has been determined to be faked, it's still used in textbooks today.

Do you fall back on the term "ignorance" because you can't refute his position in any other manner?

One more link, below, showing the relationship between some aspects of embryology and evolution. If you need more, I can supply a long list of them. If you have children and they are in school, their science/biology books, in all likelyhood can confirm, this, as well.

Perhaps, instead of giving evidence that he is correct, maybe I should be asking if you believe in evolution instead of Creation? If you don't, what is your motive for calling this doctor of medicine ignorant?

Embryology is the branch of developmental biology that studies the beginning and early growth of sexually reproducing organisms. This life science specialty focuses primarily on embryogenesis (the formation and development of embryos). In humans, the term embryo is traditionally reserved for the first two months of development. After that point, the term “embryo” is replaced by the term “fetus,” which then applies until birth. At the beginning of the individual’s development, the entity is a single cell. After two months, it has limbs, distinct fingers and toes, internal development, and countless cells. So the term “embryo” applies to an individual throughout a vast range of developmental change.[2]

Since the time Charles Darwin published The Origin of Species, embryology has been used to support common descent. In fact, Darwin referred to embryological homology as the strongest single class of facts that existed to support his theories. A theory later put forth by Ernst Haeckel, known as the biogenetic law, asserted that the evolutionary history of an organism was recapped during embryo development. Although the biogenetic law is now discredited, in recent years, embryology has reemerged as a tool used by evolutionary biologists that attempt to establish phylogenetic relationships by identifying developmental similarities between taxonomic groups. Evolutionary Developmental Biology is a merging of developmental biology and evolutionary biology that is commonly known as "evo-devo".
http://creationwiki.org/Embryology

 

[Crabtownboy]

How much more evidence do you need to confirm that embryology is used as "evidence" for evolution. From grade school I was taught that embryo studies provided proof of evolution. Even though one of the examples used for this proof has been determined to be faked, it's still used in textbooks today.

Do you fall back on the term "ignorance" because you can't refute his position in any other manner?

One more link, below, showing the relationship between some aspects of embryology and evolution. If you need more, I can supply a long list of them. If you have children and they are in school, their science/biology books, in all likelyhood can confirm, this, as well.

Perhaps, instead of giving evidence that he is correct, maybe I should be asking if you believe in evolution instead of Creation? If you don't, what is your motive for calling this doctor of medicine ignorant?

Then the OP is a dishonest statement. The OP makes a blanket statement that all embryology is from hell. Now you are say it has been used to support evolution. The OP should have pointed this out.

A blanket statement that all embryology is evil is an exceedingly ignorant statement and it makes the fellow look ignorant when, as in the OP, such is stated.

After all the Bible has been misused to support terrible ideas. From the misuse of the Bible a person could make an erroneous statement claiming the Bible is evil. Of course just because the Bible has been misused and misused for evil does not mean the Bible is evil. It is the misuse that is evil. Big difference.

Like many things it is in the interpretation that we get in trouble.

 

[OldRegular]

He probably serves on the science committee right next to Congressman Akin.

I'm just sad that a church gave him a platform to abuse like this.

Evolution is a lie!

 

[OldRegular]

Embryology? From hell?



Obviously the man does not even know what the word means. What astounding ignorance!

Anyone that ignorant in one area of science is surely just as ignorant in other areas. Yes, it does strike as ignorant at Akin's comment or rape and pregnancy.

May the good Lord help us survive such ignorant politicians.

This fellow and many others do not realize that while the Bible contains no errors that their interpretation contains many errors ... and that is true for all of us. For a person to believe their interpretation is without error is arrogance beyond belief.

Embryology? Embryology? Is that what you democrats practice/study when you kill unborn babies Crabby?

 

[OldRegular]

As I said, "May the good Lord save us from such ignorance."

It does not matter what committee he sits on, ignorance is still ignorance.

No one on this Forum will dispute you on that Crabby.

 

[OldRegular]

After all the Bible has been misused to support terrible ideas. From the misuse of the Bible a person could make an erroneous statement claiming the Bible is evil. Of course just because the Bible has been misused and misused for evil does not mean the Bible is evil. It is the misuse that is evil. Big difference.

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[Aaron]

The congressman is absolutely correct, and the responses CBT and preachinjesus teach us the necessity of learning to be as subtle as serpents as commanded by the Lord.

 

[saturneptune]

The Congressman's words are true, however, if I had to guess, like any other politician, it is a position he takes to help with reelection. In reality, my guess is he could care less about Scripture. He would say the sky is green to get reelected. Politicians do not care about abortion, morality, Scripture or anything else. Like leeches, they attach to any idea that keeps them in power.

 

[Oldtimer]

The Congressman's words are true, however, if I had to guess, like any other politician, it is a position he takes to help with reelection. In reality, my guess is he could care less about Scripture. He would say the sky is green to get reelected. Politicians do not care about abortion, morality, Scripture or anything else. Like leeches, they attach to any idea that keeps them in power.

Video clip of some of his remarks is at this link.

Paul Broun, who is running for re-election as Georgia representative this November unopposed by Democrats, made the comments during a speech at a baptist church last month. A videoclip of the event was posted on YouTube on Friday. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/06/republican-congressman-paul-broun-evolution-video

 

[saturneptune]

Video clip of some of his remarks is at this link.

Yes, I saw the video. First of all, why is a politician addressing a congregation? A church is the House of God, not a forum for self promotion. Secondly, why is anyone telling a local Baptist congregation that evolution and the big bang theory are "from the pits of hell." Is there anyone there who would believe otherwise? It begs the question, why is he there?

For longer than I can count, right wing politicians have been using God, Jesus Christ, Holy Scripture, and any other sacred object that will garner votes. Unopposed or not, the goal is self glory.

Why am I leary of this particular politician? Because anyone who keeps up with government and politics has heard this name before. Just another in the long line of self serving, power hungry slobs that care nothing about the Constitition or serving American citizens.

http://www.citizensforethics.org/pages/family-affair-paul-broun

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/27/rep-paul-broun-highlights_n_911225.html

It is obvious his motives are self serving, conservative or not. I would not vote for him for dog catcher, and he certainly would not get a forum to speak at my church.