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Congressmen urge the UN to trample the US Constitution

mandym

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Today begins the most important 26-day period for our Second Amendment freedoms in recent history.

That’s because today, representatives from many of the world’s socialist, tyrannical and dictatorial regimes will gather at United Nations headquarters in New York for a month-long meeting, in which they’ll put the finishing touches on an international Arms Trade Treaty that could seriously restrict your freedom to own, purchase and carry a firearm.

Specifically, the U.N. wants to implement international gun registration requirements, bans on commonly owned firearms, tracking and registration of ammunition purchases, and create a new U.N. gun control bureaucracy.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/02/c...to-trample-the-us-constitution/#ixzz1zWBJpQGd
 

windcatcher

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Thanks Poncho: Checked out the link you provided and read report
Guns & Ammo News Brief
Google Sparks Outrage, Censors Guns, Ammo and Accessories
by G&A Online Editors | June 28, 2012

Yesterday, after searching for whatever firearm-related term on Google — “5.56 ammo,” for example — not only would one see general search results, but also a few shopping results.

Not anymore, it seems. According to an online retailer who contacted us to shed light on this outrage, they received a lengthy email from Google Shopping stating per the company’s new policies, all firearms, ammo and accessories will not be approved to be listed.

Read more: http://www.gunsandammo.com/2012/06/...sors-guns-ammo-and-accessories/#ixzz1zfruz1fm
However, article posted June 28: Current comments posted "5 days ago" deny this is the case and scolds the author "to get facts straight" .......Figure the truth lays somewhere between .....that is: It is possible google is developing its own fence to censor and limit searches. In the process of tracking its marketing and public response, it may place these programmed formats into position temporarily to test and tweak them.

The public programming continues: The ire raised by any victim of such censorship results in published exposure and raises the alarms of others; then a casual and unannounced withdrawal of said "fence" (for whatever may be the reason) allows folks, like google, to challenge the credibility and proof of asserted complaint.
 

Don

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Free, you're more blind than you realize. The government has already installed its own military, in the form of Homeland Security and TSA; and will be installing more in the form of 16,500 armed IRS agents. It's the "how do you boil a frog?" scenario. You're not going to see military uniformed individuals going from door to door; you're going to see semi-legitimate looking government officials that people won't question twice because obviously, the person they're visiting is a tax-dodger or terrorist supporter.

And this UN law? Isn't meant to establish more "troops"; it's meant to take away the firearms of ordinary citizens, making them easier for the already-established "civilian military" to control.
 

freeatlast

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Free, you're more blind than you realize. The government has already installed its own military, in the form of Homeland Security and TSA; and will be installing more in the form of 16,500 armed IRS agents. It's the "how do you boil a frog?" scenario. You're not going to see military uniformed individuals going from door to door; you're going to see semi-legitimate looking government officials that people won't question twice because obviously, the person they're visiting is a tax-dodger or terrorist supporter.

And this UN law? Isn't meant to establish more "troops"; it's meant to take away the firearms of ordinary citizens, making them easier for the already-established "civilian military" to control.

Yes we will see uniformend military take control. The things you mentioned are to get the people used to being herded like cattle which is already taking place.
As to that last statement. :laugh: There is no civilian military yet, but when it arises the government military will be used to shut it down.
 
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InTheLight

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If Google, a privately owned company, wants to limit searches for ammunition on their product, Google Search, it is neither tyranny or censorship. It's a private company deciding to conduct business as they see fit. In other words, operating under the freedoms they are given.
 

Don

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Yes we will see uniformend military take control. The things you mentioned are to get the people used to being herded like cattle which is already taking place.
As to that last statement. :laugh: There is no civilian military yet, but when it arises the government military will be used to shut it down.
You're mixing apples and oranges, my misguided friend. The civilian military is already in place, and being used against the citizens. You're thinking "rebels" and "domestic terrorists," as they'll be called.
 

LadyEagle

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Of course the socialists want ams control so they can control the masses and I expect obama to circumvent Congress like he does routinely and Congress to sit back like potted plants like usual.....

But here is some other information:

It is also important to note that, in order for any treaty to take effect, it must be ratified by two-thirds of the U.S. Senate. To ensure that ratification of the ATT by the Senate cannot take place, NRA has worked to get as many U.S. Senators as possible to publicly oppose any ATT that includes restrictions on civilian arms.

Last year, U.S. Sen. Jerry Moran (R-Kans.) and 57 other senators signed a letter to President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton reminding them that the Senate has final say on treaties, and stating their unequivocal opposition to any treaty that would affect civilian ownership of firearms, challenge the authority of Congress to regulate firearms within the United States, or call for an international gun registry.

This echoes what NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre said in a speech at the U.N. last July, when he told the audience of delegates that NRA would vehemently oppose any U.N. treaty that in any way restricts American gun owners' rights.

In March of this year, Sen. Moran introduced the "Second Amendment Sovereignty Act," (S. 2205), an NRA-backed bill that would prohibit the administration from using "the voice, vote, and influence of the United States, in connection with negotiations for a United Nations Arms Trade Treaty, to restrict in any way the rights of United States citizens under the second amendment to the Constitution of the United States, or to otherwise regulate domestic manufacture, assembly, possession, use, transfer, or purchase of firearms, ammunition, or related items, including small arms, light weapons, or related materials."

Last month, during consideration of the Fiscal Year 2013 State, Foreign Operations and Related Programs Appropriations Bill, Sen. Moran took additional steps to safeguard our rights and joined Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.) in offering an amendment to protect the rights of American gun owners from being undermined by the proposed ATT.

The Tester-Moran amendment, which passed by a voice vote, will block any taxpayer dollars from being used to advocate or agree to any provision that would restrict in any way the rights of United States citizens under the Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, or that would otherwise regulate the domestic manufacture, importation, assembly, possession, use, transfer or purchase of firearms, ammunition or related items.

http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/articles/2012/un-arms-trade-treaty-drafting-starts-next-week.aspx

More than 130 congressmen, led by Rep. Mike Kelly, R-Pa., signed a letter sent to President Barack Obama Monday expressing their opposition to a U.N. arms trade treaty if it violates U.S. gun owner rights and sovereignty.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/obama-un-arms-treaty/2012/07/03/id/444320


Like I said, I expect obama to circumvent Congress like usual. After all, he is a tyrant and will blend right in with the other tyrants at the UN, IMO....
 
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billwald

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>This is being sought so that the government can install a military to run the nation.

Exactly why should the military want to run the nation? What would they do differently?
 

Robert Snow

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While this story may be true, I've heard these things for years. Although I don't doubt that there are many who would love to see guns disappear from public hands, I feel that there are too many gun-lovers in our country to allow this to actually come to pass now. At least I hope there are too many gun-lovers for this to occur. I love to shoot, in fact I spent much of the forth of July at the range shooting my .45acp.

I did a search on Google just now for ammunition and found more than 38 million hits. I do agree with Carpro that if this is true, it is time to use another search engine.
 

HankD

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>This is being sought so that the government can install a military to run the nation.

Exactly why should the military want to run the nation? What would they do differently?

Its called a military dictatorship.

One-on-one/face-to-face/house-to-house intimidation/search and seizure.

Not overnight but slowly with the propaganda machine telling us it is "for our own protection".

First it was satellite images of our homes - I can pull up mine in a matter of moments.

Now drones will soon be flying over.

Next - TSA home visits for "our own protection"?

Scenario: Terrorist (oops I mean - Human Disaster Agent) is found with several explosive devices in his/her basement.

J Napolitano requests Obama to expand the Patriot Act to grant private dwelling protection armed units and equipment.

Administration signs trillion dollar Private Dwelling Protection Unit (PDPU) Bill with a clause suspending search and seizure warrants under the PDPU Bill (for our protection of course).

HankD
 
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