Contemporary worship

[donnA]

Originally posted by Clean1:
one problem.... contemporary music has an upeat rythm to it. isnt that just like worldly music? many of the contemporary stuff has overpowering music that drowns out the lyrics. when ive listened to contemporary music i don't get anything out of it... it just doesnt speak to my heart. its just empty; no meaning. and also if you pay attention its usually the music which is the first thing you notice when those type of songs are played. many of the contemporary music that ive heard mainly focuses on how God is always there for you and how God is so good which is not a bad thing at all. but thats all they ever sing about. They never sing about God's saving grace or about His precious blood or about how were going to Hell if we dont accept the gift of eteranl life. A few years back there was an article about Amy Grant in which she stated that she had no problem with people smoking pot at her concerts. uh...Hello? Also, a very Godly man at a youth camp in Colorado that i went to last summer, had the facts in his hands stating that a guy
off the radio station 100.7, i dont remember his name, said that he was only in the music business just for the money and not to win people to Christ. in my opinion, many churches today have gone to contemporary music in their survices just to attract more people thus compromising good Godly standards. in 2 Corinthians 6:14 through chap. 7:1 it states that
worldy music dosen't mix with Godly music and visa-versa. i wouldnt go to a bar so why have bar type music in the house of God? i beleive that you can worship God with any type of instrument if it is done in the right way. not in a fleshly attractive manner. If the music reaches your feet before your heart then it isnt good Godly music. Just because it has Christian lyrics doesnt make it Christian music. if it quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, swims like a duck, waddles like a duck, etc. then it isnt a chicken is it? need i say more?

And there is contemporary songs that are not upbeat also.
The lyrics are the song, and extremely important.

 

[HeDied4U]

So, all of you "traditionalists" out there, what existed before all the treasured hymns you love so much? Hey, I'll bet that at one point in time those traditional hymns were considered contemporary, weren't they? Of course they were. And I'll bet dollars to donuts that people were having the same discussion about them as we're having about comtemporary praise music today.

Probably in another couple hundred years (should the Lord tary that long), some new style of music will come along, and people will compare it to the "traditional music" that is considered contemporary today.

Anyway, that's my 2 cent view.

God Bless!!!

Adam

 

[Johnv]

Originally posted by av1611jim:
... support of your godless rock'n'roll...

Wow, sounds like the "scripture twister" pot calling the kettle black.

Originally posted by Clean1:
one problem.... contemporary music has an upeat rythm to it. isnt that just like worldly music?

Negro spirituals have upbeat rhythms, and many of them were written 150 or more years ago. The classic hymn "I Will Sing of the Mercies" has an upbeat rhythm to it. Beat alone does not a "worldly" tune make.

 

[Filmproducer]

Negro spirituals have upbeat rhythms, and many of them were written 150 or more years ago. The classic hymn "I Will Sing of the Mercies" has an upbeat rhythm to it. Beat alone does not a "worldly" tune make.

That is very true. It is not about contemporary or traditional, it all about how you worship and praise. The music does not matter, the lyrics matter. In fact, many black churches take what many consider "traditional" hymns and sing them with guitars and drums, etc. I find "black" gospel music very moving and inspiring, and I do not equate it with secular music. Regardless of the style of music the goal should be PRAISING the Lord.

 

[Gold Dragon]

I'm big on 6th century contemporary music. Those Gregorian chants rock!

 

[TexasSky]

one problem.... contemporary music has an upeat rythm to it.

Music has always been defined by the times it is written in. What you consider "old" today, was probably "popular" when it was written.

What is wrong with being "upbeat" when it comes to praising the Lord? What is "wordly" about a song, ANY song, that praises God?

I tend to like traditional services because that is what I know, but worship shouldn't be about what I want. It should be about praising God, studying God, winning souls to God. If a contemporary service can lead the youth of the world to God before they totally mess up their worldly lives in sinful ways - lets make them all contemporary.

 

[Magnetic Poles]

Texas Sky,

Two thumbs up!

 

[esther]

I would much prefer my youngsters listening to rock with a good message than a tune that is easy listening but has a negative message. The brain processes the input regardless of the accompaniment.

 

[Jimmy C]

I for one am not looking forward to the day when contemporary Christian music is Rap and Hip Hop! Can you imagine an entire sanctuary rapping How Great Thou Art??

 

[Gold Dragon]

Originally posted by Jimmy C:
I for one am not looking forward to the day when contemporary Christian music is Rap and Hip Hop! Can you imagine an entire sanctuary rapping How Great Thou Art??

Or this?

Baby Got Book

I've never been a rap or hip hop fan, but believe it can be used in a worshipful way in some cultural contexts.

I'm a big techno/ambient fan and one of my favourite CDs is from a Christian group called Rivertribe. There are no lyrics at all in most techno/ambient songs.

I also like other older styles of music that are quite similar to techno/ambient like Gregorian chant and Baroque.

 

[guitarpreacher]

Originally posted by av1611jim:
Guitar preacher;
Congratulations! You get the Scripture Twister award!
That "new song" you so often like to toss about in support of your godless rock'n'roll is from a "new creation" and a "new heart". It is NOT from a "new style" nor is it from a "new way" of packaging godless music. The "new song" is godly music sung from a regenerated heart. It is NOT yer rock'n'roll carnal compromising boogie woogie "praise-a-thon" mumbo jumbo!!!

tee hee

Dude! You're not even close. You want to see a scripture twister go look in mirror! New Song -
Hebrew - chadash: new, new thing, fresh; and shiyr - song, lyric song, religious song. Makes absolutely no reference to the heart condition of person singing. Now, in Psalm 33 he does begin by addressing himself to the righteous. And I would definately agree that for worship to be pleasing to God, it must flow from a redeemed heart. But you can't deny that Scripture repeatedly commands us to offer our praise in new and fresh songs.

Also, I really appreciate the Christlike spirit you displayed in calling me carnal and saying that I have compromised. You are definately one class act, buddy.

 

[guitarpreacher]

Originally posted by SAMPLEWOW:
guitarpreacher do you play rock and roll music?

IF you do and you do so in the name of the LORD then I will take my hat off to you and yours .

Hey Sample,

I wouldn't really call what we do rock and roll, though I'm sure some here would. Here's our order from last week.
1. Marvelous Light (Charlie Hall)
2. Stand and Sing (Jeremy Paul)
3. I'll Fly Away (the classic, done similar to the way Jars of Clay does it)
4. How Great is our God (Chris Tomlin)
5. Holy Is The Lord (Chris Tomlin)

It was a pretty kicking worship service. And the preaching that followed wasn't half bad either

 

[Rachel]

Originally posted by Jimmy C:
I for one am not looking forward to the day when contemporary Christian music is Rap and Hip Hop! Can you imagine an entire sanctuary rapping How Great Thou Art??

There are some places that do. There are many different types of congregations out there. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[donnA]

God made us all different and some people complain because we're not all them.

 

[Johnv]

Originally posted by Jimmy C:
Can you imagine an entire sanctuary rapping How Great Thou Art??

That's what they used to say about Rhythm & Blues. Then came the Blind Boys of Alabama, who proved us all wrong.

 

[av1611jim]

guitarpreacher says: "Christian music existed long before secular music was ever thought of. So who is leading? "

I guess he never read this!
Ge 4:21
And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ.

I suppose yer gonna tell me that Jubal was a 'christian'?

bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!

 

[Jimmy C]

Sounds like I need to pick up a Blind boys CD - I love R&B! My comment was actually in jest. My biggest problem with Rap is the dehumanization of women and the glorification of violence in much of Rap music - I suprise the kids from time to time when I actually know one of thier songs.

I have told my kids from day one that for some reason Rap music would not play in my car!!

Although as rap is typically a solo type event - can you imagine an entire congregation rapping along together??

 

[gb93433]

Originally posted by Roguelet:
I don't think chirches should play " christian rock " music in church and youth groups. I don't allow my kids to listen to that stuff so why should they hear it at church ?

How is it different than what Psalm 150 mentions?

 

[untangled]

Originally posted by Gold Dragon:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Jimmy C:
I for one am not looking forward to the day when contemporary Christian music is Rap and Hip Hop! Can you imagine an entire sanctuary rapping How Great Thou Art??

Or this?

Baby Got Book

I'm a big techno/ambient fan and one of my favourite CDs is from a Christian group called Rivertribe. There are no lyrics at all in most techno/ambient songs.

I also like other older styles of music that are quite similar to techno/ambient like Gregorian chant and Baroque. </font>[/QUOTE]

Baby Got Book and I cannot lie.. funny.

 

[guitarpreacher]

Originally posted by av1611jim:
guitarpreacher says: "Christian music existed long before secular music was ever thought of. So who is leading? "

I guess he never read this!
Ge 4:21
And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ.

I suppose yer gonna tell me that Jubal was a 'christian'?

bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!

What are you talking about??? I never said that. I think gb93433 may have said something like that. Try to pay attention, we're not that hard to keep straight. I'm the really good looking one