What are you thoughts about he Continental Drift?
Do you think it is possible, most probable, or just more evolution garage?
Salty
Do you think it is possible, most probable, or just more evolution garage?
Salty
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Continental Drift
- Thread starter Salty
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To me it makes perfect sense that continents are drifting. Why??
Glad you asked!
First a few disclaimers:
1 I believe Gods word just as written
2 I am not a geologist, and have only a layman's understanding of same
3 I am not dogmatic re: my beliefs on this topic
OK, science tells us that the earth at one time was just one huge land-mass with one huge ocean; "Pangea", I believe they called the land. Nothing I'm aware of to dispute this in scripture, so assuming this true, this would be the "world" that Noah was in when experiencing the flood. (As a side note, if true, this would make the idea of a "local" flood believable if "local" was the entire land-mass of the time!?)
We are told that the waters came from above and below when the flood commenced, so in all likelihood there was a tremendous shifting of land parcels as the water reservoirs below the earth emptied and earth shifted to fill in the voids.
And since these cataclysms continued for 40 days & nights, there obviously had to be some major shifting going on, which could very well be what we are even today experiencing as earthquakes as various voids are being filled by earth.
Sorta gives a new meaning to the old Rock&Roll song, "There's a Whole Lot of Shaking Going On!"
Anyway, I believe that these land-masses are still trying to attain equilibrum, and thus the idea of continents drifting is plausible - to me anyway!
Glad you asked!
First a few disclaimers:
1 I believe Gods word just as written
2 I am not a geologist, and have only a layman's understanding of same
3 I am not dogmatic re: my beliefs on this topic
OK, science tells us that the earth at one time was just one huge land-mass with one huge ocean; "Pangea", I believe they called the land. Nothing I'm aware of to dispute this in scripture, so assuming this true, this would be the "world" that Noah was in when experiencing the flood. (As a side note, if true, this would make the idea of a "local" flood believable if "local" was the entire land-mass of the time!?)
We are told that the waters came from above and below when the flood commenced, so in all likelihood there was a tremendous shifting of land parcels as the water reservoirs below the earth emptied and earth shifted to fill in the voids.
And since these cataclysms continued for 40 days & nights, there obviously had to be some major shifting going on, which could very well be what we are even today experiencing as earthquakes as various voids are being filled by earth.
Sorta gives a new meaning to the old Rock&Roll song, "There's a Whole Lot of Shaking Going On!"
Anyway, I believe that these land-masses are still trying to attain equilibrum, and thus the idea of continents drifting is plausible - to me anyway!
Depends on which way the respective continents are drifting--!!??:thumbsup:
Magnetic Poles
New Member
What do plate tectonics have to do with biological evolution?
I was expecting someone to say God created the Earth* exactly the way he wanted it and no change was need
I believe its very possible for that theory to be true.
But if it is - how many thousands of years did it take for the Americas to move some 4,000 miles away from Europe/Africa ?
Now if we are talking more than 10 or 15,000 years...
Salty
* not even global warming :tongue3:
I believe its very possible for that theory to be true.
But if it is - how many thousands of years did it take for the Americas to move some 4,000 miles away from Europe/Africa ?
Now if we are talking more than 10 or 15,000 years...
Salty
* not even global warming :tongue3:
Magnetic Poles
New Member
Still does not compute. One could believe in an old earth, yet reject evolution.
Dosen't it explain why marsupials are the dominant mammals in Australia, while placental mammals are dominant in Eurasia and the Americas? Doesn't it explain why fossils of animals now limited to the eastern or western hemisphere are found in the opposite hemisphere?
windcatcher
New Member
Continental drift? I honestly don't know.
What I recall reading about this.... very interesting ...... and does look like from the shape of the continents that they could've been compressed into a single piece like a puzzle which is whole before being broken apart and becoming what it now looks like.
Except for those who would try to place a gigzillion years for this to have happened.... I don't think it contradicts the Bible in any part where the Bible might be interpreted as alluding to such.
I've read a little about the teutonic plates and earthquakes and volcanoes. While the presentation seems plausible.... somehow it just doesn't make sense to me in some strange way.... plates sliding over, plates sliding under, etc.
More recently I read something about the earth actually expanding..... which makes more sense to me although one might ask 'how can a finite mass expand?'. I don't have an answer to that. If it was matter going from solid state to liquid to gas then on an elementary level of practical application I could understand that. Or if the core material was liquid under intense heat and pressure contained by the solid exterior with occasional and self healing breaches of expansion and pressure released by molten material or gases...quickly cooled at the surface where expansion occurs, then, again, with my limited understanding...... this sounds plausible.
But, I really haven't studied any of this so I really don't know the science behind any of the theories.
But, if allowed the liberty and freedom to run with my imagination and just toss the craziest hypothetical and stupidly crazy guess into the mix........ My own theory.... based solely on imagination..... is that the whole universe has been in a state of accelerating expansion until recent and what is now measured and observable .....and accepted as a constant.... only appears so because, in fact, it is slowing down. 6000 years ago, when man first appeared on the earth, the stars were closer to the earth and the sky was clearer: The marvels which are described on the walls of ancient buildings and artifacts showing the constellations..... some with stars now missing....... is because they were seen clearer and brighter and closer than they are now.... and their order of arrangement has moved from their original positions at the start.....while also moving away.
As for the earth...... I wonder if it were like on the order of an egg... only round....... concentric spheres within each other..... the center most being molten, the next being solid or semi solid, the next being a sea of water or colloidal mass containing water and solid......and on that an intact shell of earth with the central rivers of Genesis of the Tigress and the Euphrates extending outward throughout the solid land, then the atmosphere, then an outer and protective shell of ice in the uppermost regions of the atmosphere: This would create a terrarium like effect....... temperate climate throughout supported by a mist which rises from the earth at night as it cools, and settles in the morning hours to refresh all living plants and to provide fresh clean water to drink for man and beasts. I think the air had greater mixture of both oxygen and carbon dioxide and both under increased pressure. I think this could explain the proficient life and longevity.
The icy shell would be protective of the harmful radiations of the sun in the day and expand the light of the moon at night. However God chose to make the flood..... there was abundance of water within the underflowing streams to swell to the surface, pushing up here and capsizing there: and also abundance of water in the firmament overhead to fall as rising rain.... and to bury in snow and ice those huge gollaiths of over grown mammals. Temperatures changed drastically and polarized into more extremes with some ice and snow forming glaciers.
The floods came. The protective shell was removed and more harmful rays could now penetrate to the earth. The carbon decay rate might be altered (in what way...how?).... just a guess.
As the land began drying out from under the weight of the water....some rose and other masses settled..... forming oceans and seas, and underground rivers. The animals which survived on the ark were released..... they began mutilplying and migrating away from their natural predators in the wild (divinely directed by their Creator). Domesticated animals remained close to the protection and husbandry of man. Predatory animals scattered where ever they could find meat or carin....... and the most vulnerable did not make it except in those most remote areas where they were successful in fleeing from their predators. Sin once more abounded and God's judgment brought confusion of tongues, dispersement of man kind by divisions in language with their animals going with them, and continued disturbances in the earths crust as earthquakes...... breaking it up into pieces resembling a puzzle. This is my imagination on overdrive (except for those parts which are scripturally sound).
Fact: I do believe there was a flood; a sudden and unexplained confusion of languages; the death of all humankind save for the preservation of 8 souls saved in an Ark constructed by God's command, and by which the whole earth was repopulated to this present day.
What I recall reading about this.... very interesting ...... and does look like from the shape of the continents that they could've been compressed into a single piece like a puzzle which is whole before being broken apart and becoming what it now looks like.
Except for those who would try to place a gigzillion years for this to have happened.... I don't think it contradicts the Bible in any part where the Bible might be interpreted as alluding to such.
I've read a little about the teutonic plates and earthquakes and volcanoes. While the presentation seems plausible.... somehow it just doesn't make sense to me in some strange way.... plates sliding over, plates sliding under, etc.
More recently I read something about the earth actually expanding..... which makes more sense to me although one might ask 'how can a finite mass expand?'. I don't have an answer to that. If it was matter going from solid state to liquid to gas then on an elementary level of practical application I could understand that. Or if the core material was liquid under intense heat and pressure contained by the solid exterior with occasional and self healing breaches of expansion and pressure released by molten material or gases...quickly cooled at the surface where expansion occurs, then, again, with my limited understanding...... this sounds plausible.
But, I really haven't studied any of this so I really don't know the science behind any of the theories.
But, if allowed the liberty and freedom to run with my imagination and just toss the craziest hypothetical and stupidly crazy guess into the mix........ My own theory.... based solely on imagination..... is that the whole universe has been in a state of accelerating expansion until recent and what is now measured and observable .....and accepted as a constant.... only appears so because, in fact, it is slowing down. 6000 years ago, when man first appeared on the earth, the stars were closer to the earth and the sky was clearer: The marvels which are described on the walls of ancient buildings and artifacts showing the constellations..... some with stars now missing....... is because they were seen clearer and brighter and closer than they are now.... and their order of arrangement has moved from their original positions at the start.....while also moving away.
As for the earth...... I wonder if it were like on the order of an egg... only round....... concentric spheres within each other..... the center most being molten, the next being solid or semi solid, the next being a sea of water or colloidal mass containing water and solid......and on that an intact shell of earth with the central rivers of Genesis of the Tigress and the Euphrates extending outward throughout the solid land, then the atmosphere, then an outer and protective shell of ice in the uppermost regions of the atmosphere: This would create a terrarium like effect....... temperate climate throughout supported by a mist which rises from the earth at night as it cools, and settles in the morning hours to refresh all living plants and to provide fresh clean water to drink for man and beasts. I think the air had greater mixture of both oxygen and carbon dioxide and both under increased pressure. I think this could explain the proficient life and longevity.
The icy shell would be protective of the harmful radiations of the sun in the day and expand the light of the moon at night. However God chose to make the flood..... there was abundance of water within the underflowing streams to swell to the surface, pushing up here and capsizing there: and also abundance of water in the firmament overhead to fall as rising rain.... and to bury in snow and ice those huge gollaiths of over grown mammals. Temperatures changed drastically and polarized into more extremes with some ice and snow forming glaciers.
The floods came. The protective shell was removed and more harmful rays could now penetrate to the earth. The carbon decay rate might be altered (in what way...how?).... just a guess.
As the land began drying out from under the weight of the water....some rose and other masses settled..... forming oceans and seas, and underground rivers. The animals which survived on the ark were released..... they began mutilplying and migrating away from their natural predators in the wild (divinely directed by their Creator). Domesticated animals remained close to the protection and husbandry of man. Predatory animals scattered where ever they could find meat or carin....... and the most vulnerable did not make it except in those most remote areas where they were successful in fleeing from their predators. Sin once more abounded and God's judgment brought confusion of tongues, dispersement of man kind by divisions in language with their animals going with them, and continued disturbances in the earths crust as earthquakes...... breaking it up into pieces resembling a puzzle. This is my imagination on overdrive (except for those parts which are scripturally sound).
Fact: I do believe there was a flood; a sudden and unexplained confusion of languages; the death of all humankind save for the preservation of 8 souls saved in an Ark constructed by God's command, and by which the whole earth was repopulated to this present day.
Gold Dragon
Well-Known Member
There are several networks of high precision GPS receivers on the ground that monitor plate tectonic movement to the millimeter in real time. Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology and NASA have collected and analyzed the data from these networks and have mapped out the movement in the following link.
GPS Time Series, Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
GPS Time Series, Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
>The floods came. The protective shell was removed and more harmful rays could now penetrate to the earth. The carbon decay rate might be altered (in what way...how?).... just a guess.
Your proposed world could not exist in this universe with the physical relationships which God designed into this universe.
Your proposed world could not exist in this universe with the physical relationships which God designed into this universe.
Thinkingstuff
Active Member
God created multiverses? Cool. So God created a word just as he said in another universe and then later at some point brought us to this universe where things are immensly different and this universal world developed differently over a greater period of time?
Ed Edwards
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If I want to find some more gas/oil for my automobiles & jet planes; Then I study Plate Tutonics. If I want to know about the anti-flood folks; Then I study Genesis, first few Chapters. If I want to know about the paterarchs this side of the Flood - Then I study the last 3/4 of Genesis.
Either way, God created the Universe THE WAY IT IS. God did NOT necessasrily create the Universe the WAY SOME FOLK THINK IT TO BE; God created the Universe THE WAY THE BIBLE SAYS. God did NOT necessarily create the Universe the WAY SOME FOLKS SAY the BIBLE says.
-- Ed Edwards, AGW Dude
(AGW = Anthropogenic Global Warming)
Keep the Planet Cool
( for the physical Millennial Messianic Reign of Jesus )
Either way, God created the Universe THE WAY IT IS. God did NOT necessasrily create the Universe the WAY SOME FOLK THINK IT TO BE; God created the Universe THE WAY THE BIBLE SAYS. God did NOT necessarily create the Universe the WAY SOME FOLKS SAY the BIBLE says.
-- Ed Edwards, AGW Dude
(AGW = Anthropogenic Global Warming)
Keep the Planet Cool
( for the physical Millennial Messianic Reign of Jesus )
quantumfaith
Active Member
Well, according to ayutollah Khameni of Iran, the cause of earthquakes and the recent volcano event is "immodestly" dressed women.
quantumfaith
Active Member
Well, I am a person of science, and shocking to some on this board who often disparage my comments, the "theory" of multiverses is wild scientific speculation, one of many attempts at cosmological theory which seeks to find no need for a beginning, and thus no need for a beginner. At the moment, I am currently sold on the science of the Big Bang.
