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[JonC]

No more discussion about the guilt offering?

Sure....you are wrong to think that the guilt offering was paying for sins (Scripture even denounces this error....sins were "passed over" until the time of the New Covenant. There were not paid.)

You have adopted a philosophy that was popular at one time, but now primarily exists within reformed RCC doctrine. This is why it is increasingly being questioned by Calvinists.

People will always hold it, not because of the Bible but because of tradition.

 

[Aaron]

Sure....you are wrong to think that the guilt offering was paying for sins (Scripture even denounces this error....sins were "passed over" until the time of the New Covenant. There were not paid.)

You have adopted a philosophy that was popular at one time, but now primarily exists within reformed RCC doctrine. This is why it is increasingly being questioned by Calvinists.

People will always hold it, not because of the Bible but because of tradition.

LOL. The guilt offering prescribes payment.

 

[Aaron]

You are making assumptions. Scripture tells us he testified of Christ, not told the guy what Scripture "really means".

You do not expound on Scripture. You add to it. There is a difference.

So the Scripture he was reading wasn't about Christ?

You are the jewel of the moderator pool!

 

[JonC]

LOL. The guilt offering prescribes payment.

It does within the ANE pagan religions. But not with God. Read what the Bible says about the guilt offering.

 

[JonC]

So the Scripture he was reading wasn't about Christ?

You are the jewel of the moderator pool!

It was. And that is what Philip explained.

My point is that Philip was not teaching reformed RCC. You are.

You think you are expounding on Scripture by adding to it. But in reality Scripture interprets Scripture.

God is not dependent on you to explain what He meant.

 

[Aaron]

It does within the ANE pagan religions. But not with God. Read what the Bible says about the guilt offering.

I have and I've posted it many times. But the guilt offering prescribes repayment of the sin debt as well as punitive damages.

But that's not the only place payment is prescribed. Perhaps you should read up on the Atonement money.

 

[Aaron]

It was. And that is what Philip explained.

My point is that Philip was not teaching reformed RCC. You are.

No, your point was that he wasn't expounding upon the Scripture, because you can't give an answer to the relevant questions posed to you.

 

[JonC]

I have and I've posted it many times. But the guilt offering prescribes repayment of the sin debt as well as punitive damages.

That is what the pagan religions believed. They sacrificed to appease the gods, to pay for their sins, to please their deities.

I suppose that is how the idea entered your faith (through the RCC).

But that is far from what the Bible states. It is just what you believe it teaches.

But what if the Bible teaches what it states? Then your theories crumble.

 

[JonC]

No, your point was that he wasn't expounding upon the Scripture, because you can't give an answer to the relevant questions posed to you.

He was not expounding upon Scripture. He was explaining how the text had been fulfilled.

We have that explanation in the NT.

 

[5 point Gillinist]

Jesus died a physical death, not a spiritual death, as that would mean he ceased being God and had to get born again!

Absolutely correct!

 

[Salty]

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