Conversation with a Muslim

That's a nice twist on my statement, thank you very much, not at all what I said.

BTW, did you know David Duke aligned himself with the Muslims? Also, did you know the neo-Nazis and Muslims have joined up?

 

Yes. I knew that a long time ago. The nazis and muslim extremists have a common enemy and hatred: Jews.

I check out Stormfront from time to time just to see what they are saying. It is quite eye opening.

Joseph Botwinick

 

That's a nice twist on my statement, thank you very much, not at all what I said.
</font>[/QUOTE]That is what it looked like to me. If I misrepresented you, then why don't you correct the misunderstanding and clarify exactly what your point was?

Joseph Botwinick

 

How many Christians in western countries supported the IRA believing that their intentions were to make Ireland a republic? Which is worse, placing a bomb in a subway or financing it?

 

Commonly taught in General Military Training on this topic:

Al Quada is to Islam as the KKK is to Christianity.

If muslims are so unhappy with the actions and fatwahs issued by the man not generally seen as an Islamic scholar, then they need to stop staring at the trash, and take it out.

 

I wonder how many Iraqi Muslim soldiers have died staring at the trash instead of taking it out. But, somehow, I have a feeling that they won't get credit for their sacrifice from some on here.

Joseph Botwinick

 

Why don't you answer the question, Joesph?

 

Most of Islam has evolved away from their barbaric past just as Judaism has. Christianity never had a barbaric past, only a barbaric middle age.

Living under radical Christians (Reconstructionists) would be as constricting as under radical (radical meaning "origional roots") Islam.

 

http://www.danielpipes.org/article/2384

 

Why don't you answer the question, Joesph? </font>[/QUOTE]1. Your figures are based on pure speculation and therefore, have no place in serious conversation.

2. I guess I could ask the same question about white supremicists terrorists organizations in America who like to bomb federal buildings in Oklahoma, bomb nightclubs, bomb Olympics Activities, bomb abortion clinics. Then there are Jewish terrorists organizations who have committed acts of violence in America and Israel. LE, let's assume that these folks represent only 10% of Jews and white Americans. Let's use a VERY conservative figure of 25,000. How fast will a country come down if all 25,000 bomb some place in that country simultaneously?

3. Was that a no to my question above? Why don't you answer my question?

4. I would also note that you have not made any attempt to clarify your position that you claim I have misrepresented about you. I don't think I have misrepresented you at all. If I have, here is your chance to clarify.

Joseph Botwinick

 

I doubt there are 25,000 Muslims in Great Britain or in the United States itching to strap on a bomb and blow themselves up.

 

Joseph, I don't want to argue with you. Besides this is already on Page 3. In fairness, though, I won't issue a 3-page warning, I'll just move this to Politics so you can go on and on comparing apples and oranges.

Not only that, but the thread has been so hijacked and I apologize to the OP for contributing to the hijack.

Also, it should have been moved anyway, since it is not a News Item.

 

It is very understandable that you don't want to continue. Unless you have something further, I am finished also.

Joseph Botwinick

 

The reason I don't want to continue is because you try to make apples and oranges comparisons.

 

The reason you don't want to continue is because you have lost the debate and have nothing of substance to offer to the conversation.

Joseph Botwinick

 

Don't you find it concerning that Saudi Arabia has funded over 4000 mosques and learning centers to teach Wahhabi Islam in these United States SINCE 09/11? (Per Fox News Channel)

Now, Joseph, when you can show there are a minimum of 4000 Southern Baptist churches in these United States that are calling for their members to strap on bombs and blow up people on mass transit, then your viewpoint may be taken seriously.

In fact, this is the ridiculous allegation you made:

I actually find your comparison of terrorists to Southern Baptists quite offensive and I've no doubt other Southern Baptists on this board do, as well. At least those who aren't SBINO.

 

1. When you can substantiate your numbers of 25,000 or even 10%, call me and we will talk.

2. Are you trying to say that a minority of folks in the SBC are not supportive of terrorist acts like those of McVeigh and Rudolph? You're not that naive, I don't think.

3. Let me get this straight....those who don't agree with you are not real Southern Baptists?

Joseph Botwinick

 

Joseph, the 10% was YOUR number.

And, no, I don't believe there are SBC churches who tell their congregations to strap bombs on themselves and blow up people on mass transit. If you can find 4000 Southern Baptist pastors that preach such messages, please post them so we'll all know. Good grief.

 

1. Go back and read the whole thread again. 10% was not my number. You are wrong here.

2. Are you telling me that of the millions of Southern Baptists, there are not a minority of folks who support the terror of Rudolph, or even Jewish terrorists groups such as the Kahane movement? Please note that I said nothing about strapping bombs on themselves. Surely, you don't think one method of terrorism is any better than another?

Joseph Botwinick