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Cop who stopped to tell owners car door was open shoots dog dead

Zaac

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Cop who stopped to tell owners car door was open shoots dog dead

FLORIDA CITY, Fla. --
An officer making a routine stop at a residence fatally shot a family's dog when it darted outside their Florida home.

Now the family says the officer's actions were unwarranted.

The shooting happened Tuesday when a Florida City officer stopped to tell a family they had left their car door open and unattended, WSVN-TV reports.

Two-year-old Dutchess ran out shortly after Gillian Palacios opened the door to greet the office. That is when the officer pulled out his gun and shot Dutchess three times.

"The dog came out. He drew his gun," said Palacios. "He shot her within seconds, within seconds."

The dog, a rescue mix, never showed any signs of aggression, Palacios said.

Dutchess died from her wounds as Palacios's 18-year-old daughter attempted to save the animal.

"I put my hand under her head," daughter Sage Raphanel said. "I could feel the blood running from my fingers, but there was nothing I could do."

The family says the officer's quick actions could have put her or her children in danger had they ran after the dog.

A Florida City Police spokesperson apologized to the family. The officer who shot the dog was placed on paid administrative leave, standard procedure after any officer discharged their weapon.

An investigation into the incident is ongoing.

There is something systemically wrong in these police departments.
 

annsni

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That was a fast draw!! I guess you've never seen a dog attack, have you? Let your dog run out and go after a cop, this is what happens. I NEVER let my dog run out of the house like that. Secure the dog, open the door. What if that were a child who knocked on the door?
 

Carnold23

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Recently near me there was a case where the police officers were looking for a coyote. They ran over the "coyote" twice and then shot it. It turned out to be a locals dog.
Everyone is really upset about this. Kind of a similar story.
In this story I think that the police officer probably just reacted to the dog, not the he meant to kill the dog. Sad story, no lives should be lost animal or otherwise.
 

Zaac

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That was a fast draw!! I guess you've never seen a dog attack, have you? Let your dog run out and go after a cop, this is what happens. I NEVER let my dog run out of the house like that. Secure the dog, open the door. What if that were a child who knocked on the door?


Sure I have. I do a lot of running. Been attacked by my fair share of dogs. And I don't have any problem fighting a dog, But there is just something wrong in that officers all across these United States keep using excessive force in situations that start off with something stupid.
 

InTheLight

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That was a fast draw!! I guess you've never seen a dog attack, have you? Let your dog run out and go after a cop, this is what happens. I NEVER let my dog run out of the house like that. Secure the dog, open the door. What if that were a child who knocked on the door?

Watch how the cop pulls the gun out before he does anything else. Goes to the gun as the door is only opened a crack. (I presume the dog was barking, and you can see the kennel right there next to the door.) Nice training, firing a weapon at a dog with people right behind the dog. Good thing the people didn't get hit.
 

InTheLight

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Carnold23 said:
In this story I think that the police officer probably just reacted to the dog, not the he meant to kill the dog. Sad story, no lives should be lost animal or otherwise.

There is a (smallish) kennel and two feeding dishes next to the door. The dog likely started barking when the cop knocked on the door. The cop is going for his gun before the door is even opened. I'd say he was ready to shoot no matter what.
 

poncho

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The dog should have complied, serves him right!

Seriously though what is it with today's cops? Why are they so afraid of everything now?

"I'm scared, bang bang bang!"

This has become so common place there's even a name for it now, "puppycide". There's even a database project keeping track of it.

https://puppycidedb.com/

Maybe we need a new hashtag group, "paws up don't shoot" or maybe "dog's lives matter".

Uh oh, I just noticed this . . . Dog Rescuer Visited By Homeland Security for Making Facebook Posts About Cops Shooting Dogs

After being harassed by Philly cops, a local dog rescuer got a visit from DHS for posting on Facebook.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/category/cop-watch/puppycide/

Gee I probably ought to get busy practicing being subservient and instantly complying with orders now, just in case.
 
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faithgirl46

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Sure I have. I do a lot of running. Been attacked by my fair share of dogs. And I don't have any problem fighting a dog, But there is just something wrong in that officers all across these United States keep using excessive force in situations that start off with something stupid.
What do you expect the officers to do? Should they say be a good boy ?
 

InTheLight

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What do you expect the officers to do? Should they say be a good boy ?

No.

The officer, if he had a brain, would have noticed the dog kennel and feeding dishes on the sidewalk. He could probably hear the dog barking, likely could have gotten an idea of its size. Then he could have backed off and waited to see what the dog might have done or he could have been at the door itself, blocking it with his foot so the dog couldn't get out and asking the homeowner to get the dog under control. He could have communicated through the cracked open door whatever it was he wanted to say.
 

Gib

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The cop had a split second to respond. Maybe not the best response, but when it comes to dogs, any dog can be a biter. A cop doesn't know the intentions of a dog or dogs coming out of a house and running right at them. I’m sure that every dog they have encountered on the job hasn’t been just curious or wanted to play.

I've been bit by 2 german shepherds, an Irish Setter, and a Basenji. I was antagonizing one of the shepherds, so I got what I deserved, but the other 3 were unwarranted. You just never know.

I would be horrified if the po-po shot my dog. But, I don't answer my door without putting my dogs up, unless they know who it is. When the owner opened the door, the dog bolted out. As unfortunate as this is, I think the owner has to share some of the responsibility by not securing the dog before she opened the door.

Also, just an observation - that kennel looks too small for the dog that was shot. It may just be the camera angle. But, one report says that she had another dog.
 

poncho

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Shoot first, justify later. Why take any chances?

Could be the dog's owner knew he wouldn't bite anyone.

Could be the dog's owner thought it was the neighbor kid at the door to take the dog on his daily run.

Could be the dog's owner thought the guy in jeans and tee shirt with a gun walking up their sidewalk was there to rob, rape or kill them.

Could be that if cop's are so afraid for their lives that their first reaction is to pull the trigger they shouldn't be cops.

I'm missing part of my lip from a dog attack. My daughter has a scar on her forehead from a dog attack. Guess what happens when you call the dog warden to report a dog at large in this town?

Nothing. He won't even answer his phone. Guess what happens when your dog is in the backyard playing ball with the kids? Two cops show up to give you a ticket for $100 for having a dog at large.

Guess what the dog warden's yearly salary is for his part time job. $40,000. Not bad for doing nothing.
 
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InTheLight

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Shoot first, justify later. Why take any chances?

Could be that if cop's are so afraid for their lives that their first reaction is to pull the trigger they shouldn't be cops.

I wonder.....don't cops carry pepper spray for exactly this scenario?
 

InTheLight

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Also, just an observation - that kennel looks too small for the dog that was shot. It may just be the camera angle. But, one report says that she had another dog.

Yes, the YouTube description says the car door was open because the homeowner was going to take the other dog to the vet.
 

poncho

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I wonder.....don't cops carry pepper spray for exactly this scenario?

They do around here. So do the mail carriers. The cop next door doesn't carry pepper spray or a gun when he isn't in uniform. But then he's guarded by a herd of his wife's attack cats most of the time. No, I'm not afraid of the cats most of em are really friendly others just keep their distance.
 
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just-want-peace

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Yes, the YouTube description says the car door was open because the homeowner was going to take the other dog to the vet.

Well, this just shows how dumb some cops can be; any well trained guy in blue would have immediately recognized that the car door was open for a vet trip, and just rode on by. (Sarcasm for those of you that post by reflexInlove).
 
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