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Could God Have Used Evolution?

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ReformedBaptist

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Thinkingstuff said:
You know I'm doing it for the case of the argument not because I believe it. This is how an evolutionist (probably and athiestic one at that) may respond. I personally reverance the bible.

Ok, my bad. Sorry I misunderstood. :tonofbricks:
 

Revmitchell

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Thinkingstuff said:
If you understand evolution is that we developed from a simple organism "in the begining" and if God's hand was in it then it hold that "in the begining" God made man.


Keep reaching. "In the beginning" man was made male and female. One cell organism are neutral. Anyway evolution is on its way out.
 

lbaker

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ReformedBaptist said:
Why would I not believe the Genesis account of the flood? Have I not been affirming that the Bible is God's infallible Word?

Concerning your other questions, obviously many of the kinds of dinos went extinct over the last 4700 years. Why is that such a big mystery? lol

Les here: Because (a) God told them to be fruitful and multiply after the flood, and (b) why is there no post-flood mention of them? Anywhere? Good grief if there were T-rex's running around killing everything and eating people, surely someone would have mentioned it.

RB



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lbaker

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TCGreek said:
The great princeton theologian BB Warfield was a theistic evolutionist, and a good calvinist. :thumbs:

I knew they couldn't be all bad! :laugh:

(actually I think the Reformed take on the End Times is pretty good too)
 

Thinkingstuff

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Revmitchell said:
Keep reaching. "In the beginning" man was made male and female. One cell organism are neutral. Anyway evolution is on its way out.

How is evolution on the way out? There is not another secular hypothesis (which evolution really is) to replace it.

If God's intent was one of male and female and he achieved that end result through the process of evolution then "in the begining" he created them.
 

annsni

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lbaker said:
Whoa, I thought the idea was that the dinosaurs were killed off by the flood and that the flood caused all the fossils to be buried. Now you're saying there were pre-flood fossils? Hmmmm, how do you tell which ones are pre-flood or post-flood or during-flood? What about all the be fruitful, etc.? How can they be fruitful and go extinct at the same time?

Please place your answers OUTSIDE the quote codes - it's getting tough to respond to your comments.

Yes, many dinos were killed off by the flood as were the majority of all the other animals. There were only a couple or a few more of each kind of animal on the ark.

God never rescinded His command to be fruitful and multiply so if we're going by your argument, there should be NO extinct animals. But we know it happens. It certainly could have happened before the flood - or not. God doesn't say and He's the only one alive who would know, right?
 

TCGreek

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ReformedBaptist said:
man...that is really sad to hear about. A man with such influence led so many astray. Haven't read him much either way. Time to sell the Warfield set....interested?

No need to sell your set. Have you read Hugh Ross on the issue.

He's an evangelical and believes the process glorifies God.

He's both an astronomer and astrophysicist. He is compelling.
 

Thinkingstuff

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annsni said:
Please place your answers OUTSIDE the quote codes - it's getting tough to respond to your comments.

Yes, many dinos were killed off by the flood as were the majority of all the other animals. There were only a couple or a few more of each kind of animal on the ark.

God never rescinded His command to be fruitful and multiply so if we're going by your argument, there should be NO extinct animals. But we know it happens. It certainly could have happened before the flood - or not. God doesn't say and He's the only one alive who would know, right?

No what he is saying is that God did not tell Noah not to bring dinosaurs on the Ark so either he did or he did not. The point was then maybe they died before the flood. There is no evidence of this in the bible. So something is amiss
 

Revmitchell

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Thinkingstuff said:
How is evolution on the way out? There is not another secular hypothesis (which evolution really is) to replace it.

If God's intent was one of male and female and he achieved that end result through the process of evolution then "in the begining" he created them.


That would be a twisting of the words "In the beginning" and has to be the dumbest logic I have ever seen.
 

lbaker

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annsni said:
Please place your answers OUTSIDE the quote codes - it's getting tough to respond to your comments.

Yes, many dinos were killed off by the flood as were the majority of all the other animals. There were only a couple or a few more of each kind of animal on the ark.

God never rescinded His command to be fruitful and multiply so if we're going by your argument, there should be NO extinct animals. But we know it happens. It certainly could have happened before the flood - or not. God doesn't say and He's the only one alive who would know, right?


So what was the purpose of loading those HUGE creatures onto the ark just to let them go extinct? I thought extinctions were a byproduct of evolution and death?
 

TCGreek

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lbaker said:
I knew they couldn't be all bad! :laugh:

(actually I think the Reformed take on the End Times is pretty good too)

Ibaker, Warfield saw the possibilities, and I do not consier him erroneous for that either.

Reformed Covenant Theology is lacking.
 

Thinkingstuff

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Revmitchell said:
That would be a twisting of the words "In the beginning" and has to be the dumbest logic I have ever seen.

Well, I'm glad I've achieved something.

BTW people twist scripture to fit their meanings all the time. I'm not the first. Also follow this logic. Jesus was referring to biblical principle of God creating man and woman it may not be a referrance to prove that the genisis account should be taken literally but taken on it's principle.
 

ReformedBaptist

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Les here: Because (a) God told them to be fruitful and multiply after the flood, and (b) why is there no post-flood mention of them? Anywhere? Good grief if there were T-rex's running around killing everything and eating people, surely someone would have mentioned it.

Why do any species go instinct? There are still lizards in existence, and since I do not know every creature on the planet, I cannot infallible conclude all dinosaurs are extinct. If t-rex's were as terrible as we think, I would think humans killed them off long ago. The term dinosaur is new to our language. For a terrible lizard it used to be dragon.

What do you do when fresh dino bones are found? With blood cells that haven't decayed?

I think its possible some dino species still exist.

RB
 

Thinkingstuff

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ReformedBaptist said:
Why do any species go instinct? There are still lizards in existence, and since I do not know every creature on the planet, I cannot infallible conclude all dinosaurs are extinct. If t-rex's were as terrible as we think, I would think humans killed them off long ago. The term dinosaur is new to our language. For a terrible lizard it used to be dragon.

What do you do when fresh dino bones are found? With blood cells that haven't decayed?

I think its possible some dino species still exist.

RB


Species go extinct because they are unable to adapt to their situation or environment which is the basis of evolution.
 

ReformedBaptist

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Thinkingstuff said:
Species go extinct because they are unable to adapt to their situation or environment which is the basis of evolution.

They also go extinct because people are hungry and others need to make a living. Put that in your evolutionary pipe and smoke it. :laugh:
 

Thinkingstuff

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ReformedBaptist said:
They also go extinct because people are hungry and others need to make a living. Put that in your evolutionary pipe and smoke it. :laugh:


Yep. That's it basically. We eat them and they cannot find a way to prevent it (non situation adaptation). They go exinct. And I shall (smoke it that is)! :laugh:
 

Revmitchell

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Thinkingstuff said:
Well, I'm glad I've achieved something.

BTW people twist scripture to fit their meanings all the time. I'm not the first. Also follow this logic. Jesus was referring to biblical principle of God creating man and woman it may not be a referrance to prove that the genisis account should be taken literally but taken on it's principle.

Spell Check is your friend.


"In the beginning" is a reference to the creation of all things to include man and woman and marriage. Jesus used the fact that from the creation of the world it was so.
 
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