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Could Jesus Do Things the Father and Holy Spirit could not do?

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Yeshua1

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While He was here on earth, could Jesus do things that the other 2 Persons of the Godhood could never do?
 
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SavedByGrace

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As Jesus Christ after the Incarnation, when He took upon Himself the complete nature of humans, sin excepted, He was "different", from the Father and Holy Spirit. He ate, drank, was tired, "grew in wisdom", as pertaining to His human nature, which is not true of the Father and Holy Spirit. However, Jesus remained 100% Almighty God, while on earth, but laid aside His Glory and equality with the Father, and became a "Servant".
 
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Yeshua1

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SavedByGrace said:
As Jesus Christ after the Incarnation, when He took upon Himself the complete nature of humans, sin excepted, He was "different", from the Father and Holy Spirit. He ate, drank, was tired, "grew in wisdom", as pertaining to His human nature, which is not true of the Father and Holy Spirit. However, Jesus remained 100% Almighty God, while on earth, but laid aside His Glory and equality with the Father, and became a "Servant".
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So Jesus could and did experience and do things that neither the Father nor Holy Spirit could?
 
SavedByGrace

SavedByGrace

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Yeshua1 said:
Father and Holy Spirit
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The Father IS YHWH from eternity to eternity
Jesus Christ IS YHWH from eternity to eternity
The Holy Spirit IS YHWH from eternity to eternity

the name יהוה being derived from the verb הָוָה to be, was considered to signify God as eternal and immutable, who will never be other than the same.

The Three are 100% coequal, coeternal and coessential.

During His Incarnation and up to His Ascension, Jesus Christ was "God manifested in the flesh", 100% God and 100% Man (apart from any sin or ability to sin), and became "subordinate" to the Father. Now He is again 100% coequal to the Father and Holy Spirit, even though still The God-Man. There is ZERO subordination, after Jesus' Ascension to either the Father of the Holy Spirit.
 
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SavedByGrace

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I am not much for the Creeds of the early Church, but will agree to this part from the Athanasian Creed, as Biblically sound.

That we worship one God in trinity and the trinity in unity,
neither blending their persons
nor dividing their essence.
For the person of the Father is a distinct person,
the person of the Son is another,
and that of the Holy Spirit still another.
But the divinity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is one,
their glory equal, their majesty coeternal.

What quality the Father has, the Son has, and the Holy Spirit has.
The Father is uncreated,
the Son is uncreated,
the Holy Spirit is uncreated.

The Father is immeasurable,
the Son is immeasurable,
the Holy Spirit is immeasurable.

The Father is eternal,
the Son is eternal,
the Holy Spirit is eternal.

And yet there are not three eternal beings;
there is but one eternal being.
So too there are not three uncreated or immeasurable beings;
there is but one uncreated and immeasurable being.

Similarly, the Father is almighty,
the Son is almighty,
the Holy Spirit is almighty.
Yet there are not three almighty beings;
there is but one almighty being.

Thus the Father is God,
the Son is God,
the Holy Spirit is God.
Yet there are not three gods;
there is but one God.

Thus the Father is Lord,
the Son is Lord,
the Holy Spirit is Lord.
Yet there are not three lords;
there is but one Lord.

AMEN!
 
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tyndale1946

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Yeshua1... You forgot the most important thing that Jesus could do that the other two could not... DIE!... Unless you believe that when Jesus died, God the Father and the Holy Spirit died with him?... Brother Glen:)

John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

Oh and by the way... How long have you been here?

Then there is this!

Hebrews 5:7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;

5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;

5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him
 
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MB

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SavedByGrace said:
The Father IS YHWH from eternity to eternity
Jesus Christ IS YHWH from eternity to eternity
The Holy Spirit IS YHWH from eternity to eternity

the name יהוה being derived from the verb הָוָה to be, was considered to signify God as eternal and immutable, who will never be other than the same.

The Three are 100% coequal, coeternal and coessential.

During His Incarnation and up to His Ascension, Jesus Christ was "God manifested in the flesh", 100% God and 100% Man (apart from any sin or ability to sin), and became "subordinate" to the Father. Now He is again 100% coequal to the Father and Holy Spirit, even though still The God-Man. There is ZERO subordination, after Jesus' Ascension to either the Father of the Holy Spirit.
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Something else to think about they are all the same God so they all experinced the same things as did Christ.
MB
 
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MB

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SavedByGrace said:
Hunger, thirsting. Tiredness?
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Don't forget the beating and hanging on a cross while a Roman soldier rams a sword in to Him. No matter what you may think you cannot separate the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit They are one God. That really short circuits your brain doesn't it?
MB
 
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