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Could Jesus Do Things the Father and Holy Spirit could not do?

Yeshua1

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You can continue to deflect and make personal remarks, or you can answer the question: what is the practical spiritual application for me in speculating about what the Holy Spirit does or does not know about the timing of the second coming?

"Methinks, folks," this is just debate for its own sake. We are warned against that practice (2 Timothy 2:23, Titus 3:9).
The Spirit searched and knows the very mind of God the father, so he knows all the father does!
 

Van

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You can continue to deflect and make personal remarks,

Bushwhacker pot shot

Note the complete absence of the answer to the questions:
How could the Holy Spirit and Jesus not know the time of return if their "understanding" is infinite? The alternate translation choice of a few versions is "beyond measure" or beyond our comprehension. But that would not require it to be infinite, because almost all of us can look at the stars and realize our knowledge is limited.
 

Van

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That could be because you have failed to explain why it matters. Did Adam and Eve have belly buttons?
Bushwhacker pot shot.

Folks, note that my questions were not answered. How could the Holy Spirit and Jesus not know the time of return if their "understanding" is infinite? The alternate translation choice of a few versions is "beyond measure" or beyond our comprehension. But that would not require it to be infinite, because almost all of us can look at the stars and realize our knowledge is limited.
 

Tsalagi

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Bushwhacker pot shot.

Folks, note that my questions were not answered. How could the Holy Spirit and Jesus not know the time of return if their "understanding" is infinite? The alternate translation choice of a few versions is "beyond measure" or beyond our comprehension. But that would not require it to be infinite, because almost all of us can look at the stars and realize our knowledge is limited.
Your questions aren't important, and the answers are spiritually meaningless.
 

Van

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Your questions aren't important, and the answers are spiritually meaningless.
Yet another pot shot by the bushwhacker. How could the Holy Spirit and Jesus not know the time of return if their "understanding" is infinite? The alternate translation choice of a few versions is "beyond measure" or beyond our comprehension. But that would not require it to be infinite, because almost all of us can look at the stars and realize our knowledge is limited.
 

Tsalagi

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Van said:
... aren't you the guy who said you were not a Calvinist, but refused to state which points of the TULIP you disavow. I like western movies but I do recall the pattern of a bushwhacker keeping his position hidden so he could shoot the unwary in the back.
Yet another pot shot by the bushwhacker.
I repeat, for the hearing impaired:

"Here is the answer written with a bigger Crayola. What are the adjectives? Total depravity, unconditional election, limited atonement, irresistible grace, perseverance of the saints. If Scripture teaches these points only without the modifiers, what have I said? "Scripture supports depravity, election, atonement, grace, and perseverance." Scripture does not support these concepts as distorted by Calvinists through adding the adjectives above. Get it?"

That answer to your TULIP question was posted two weeks ago. What part of it is unclear to you? If you cannot grasp the clear meaning of simple sentences you really should leave the holy task of Scriptural interpretation to others.

Your name-calling is ungracious and erroneous to say the least.
 

Van

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I repeat, for the hearing impaired:

"Here is the answer written with a bigger Crayola. What are the adjectives? Total depravity, unconditional election, limited atonement, irresistible grace, perseverance of the saints. If Scripture teaches these points only without the modifiers, what have I said? "Scripture supports depravity, election, atonement, grace, and perseverance." Scripture does not support these concepts as distorted by Calvinists through adding the adjectives above. Get it?"

That answer to your TULIP question was posted two weeks ago. What part of it is unclear to you? If you cannot grasp the clear meaning of simple sentences you really should leave the holy task of Scriptural interpretation to others.

Your name-calling is ungracious and erroneous to say the least.
Yet another slander, another off topic deflection, and no answer in sight from the bushwhacker in chief. This professing Christian asks questions but keeps his own position hidden, all the better to take pot shots at the unwary.

Did this guy say which of the points of the TULIP he disavows, or did he create undefined points which he then says scripture supports. And which of the points distorted by Calvinists does he disavow? Who knows.

Van said:
... aren't you [Tsalagi]the guy who said you were not a Calvinist, but refused to state which points of the TULIP you disavow. I like western movies but I do recall the pattern of a bushwhacker keeping his position hidden so he could shoot the unwary in the back.
 

Tsalagi

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Did this guy say which of the points of the TULIP he disavows, or did he create undefined points which he then says scripture supports. And which of the points distorted by Calvinists does he disavow? Who knows.
The answer is clear to everyone but you.
 

Van

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Everyone but you.
Tick tock, waiting for someone to say this bushwhacker disavows the T or U or L or I or P.

Folks, note that my questions were not answered.

How could the Holy Spirit and Jesus not know the time of return if their "understanding" is infinite?
Tick tock

The alternate translation choice of a few versions is "beyond measure" or beyond our comprehension. But that would not require it to be infinite, because almost all of us can look at the stars and realize our knowledge is limited.
 

Van

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Yes it is a challenge to admit error, rather than hold on to mistaken beliefs. Hence the silence...
 
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