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Wesley Briggman

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Usually, Hank, when I provide proof of Baptist 'bad' behavior, you respond with 'well, nothing compares to what the Catholic Church did!'. When I gave you the link for the Protestant Inquisition which documented hundreds of thousands burned at the stake by Protestants you said you didn't need to read it, you had done your own research. Oh, and the hooey about how Baptists are not 'really Protestants', an idea to which intellectually honest Baptist historians snicker.

There is plenty of proof that Baptists owned slaves, whipped slaves brutally, considered them livestock, etc. but I suspect that you will say 'it is nothing compared to the Catholics'. Anyway, here is some info for you:

Yes, the Civil War Was About Slavery | Baptists and the American Civil War: In Their Own Words

BTW, why would the SBC apologize for the involvement of Baptists in slavery and why was the SBC started? Here is a hint:

Southern Baptist Convention - Wikipedia

I do not take issue with your stated position that many slave owners were members of local Baptist churches in their community.

However, the mistreatment of slaves was never the policy of the Baptist church or Baptist organizations as it was with the Roman Catholic Church.
 

Walter

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I do not take issue with your stated position that many slave owners were members of local Baptist churches in their community.

However, the mistreatment of slaves was never the policy of the Baptist church or Baptist organizations as it was with the Roman Catholic Church.

Take some time to read another viewpoint other than the 'Trail of Blood' hocum that has been exposed. I find most Baptists unwilling to look at both sides and just want to accept the party line beliefs. There is no question that horrible acts were committed during the Middle Ages and the Catholic Church has apologized for it's part in that, just as the SBC apologized for it's part in condoning slavery.

THE HOLY INQUISITION: MYTH OR REALITY
 

HankD

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Take some time to read another viewpoint other than the 'Trail of Blood' hocum that has been exposed. I find most Baptists unwilling to look at both sides and just want to accept the party line beliefs. There is no question that horrible acts were committed during the Middle Ages and the Catholic Church has apologized for it's part in that, just as the SBC apologized for it's part in condoning slavery.

THE HOLY INQUISITION: MYTH OR REALITY
I would be more believing if I saw more works of love to back up the "apologies".

As a pre-teen to teenage child (I was the oldest) we were destitute and lived in a roach and vermin infested housing project in New Orleans because my step father went to jail for several years.

Those organizations which made life more livable: The Free Masons (via my step father), The Salvation Army, The Roman Catholic Church (St. Vincent De Paul), 1 local Baptist Church, The State of Louisiana (Welfare, Free lunch and streetcar fare).

So we know that most organizations as the above have at least feigned "repentance" for which I am at least thankful and can sleep peacefully knowing that I will not be burned at the stake for heresy.

Soon however though I may have to protect myself from those who want me decapitated.
 
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Wesley Briggman

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Take some time to read another viewpoint other than the 'Trail of Blood' hocum that has been exposed. I find most Baptists unwilling to look at both sides and just want to accept the party line beliefs. There is no question that horrible acts were committed during the Middle Ages and the Catholic Church has apologized for it's part in that, just as the SBC apologized for it's part in condoning slavery.

THE HOLY INQUISITION: MYTH OR REALITY
Thanks for enlightening me. I stand corrected.
 

David Kent

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Interesting. I have not encountered transubstantiation-believing Baptists in my travels. Are they common where you are?
I don,t supposes so, but I don't lnow.
We went to a Baptist church about 10-15 years ago.
During the service,l the pastor said "Communion is the eldest Christian tradition." While I was contemplating what he meant by tradition, and thing that it is not a tradition, but a command from the Lord, My wife whispered to me, "He believes in transubstantiation." I replied "He can't do." After the service, she spoke to someone she knew, who said she believed in substantiation. On the way out, my wife said to the pastor, "I didn't know Baptists believed in transubstantiation." He said "You live and learn." I can't say if they still believe that as the pastor left soon after that. Two other Baptist churches in the area celebrate lent.
 

Squire Robertsson

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Walter, I fear youve fallen into a apples, oranges, and strawberries situation. Yes, there was a 'Protestant Inquistion." Though, it pretty much ended by 1660. For the purposes of this disussion, I'll go along with Baptists being Protestants. However, the one matter the Lutheran, Reformed, and the Church of England could agree on back in the day was Baptists\Anabaptists were no goodniks. Baptists have never used violence to support a sacralist state. In this context bringing up slavery is a bunch of strawberries,
Usually, Hank, when I provide proof of Baptist 'bad' behavior, you respond with 'well, nothing compares to what the Catholic Church did!'. When I gave you the link for the Protestant Inquisition which documented hundreds of thousands burned at the stake by Protestants you said you didn't need to read it, you had done your own research. Oh, and the hooey about how Baptists are not 'really Protestants', an idea to which intellectually honest Baptist historians snicker.

There is plenty of proof that Baptists owned slaves, whipped slaves brutally, considered them livestock, etc. but I suspect that you will say 'it is nothing compared to the Catholics'. Anyway, here is some info for you:

Yes, the Civil War Was About Slavery | Baptists and the American Civil War: In Their Own Words

BTW, why would the SBC apologize for the involvement of Baptists in slavery and why was the SBC started? Here is a hint:

Southern Baptist Convention - Wikipedia
 
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