Covid immunity lasts years, maybe decades

[Scott Downey]

Immunity to the coronavirus may last years, new research suggests

Recall the scaremongers saying you may not have any immunity or it lasting only a few months?

Once you have it, you wont get it again, I said that months ago here.

 

[SGO]

Dots amazing!

Anyone heard about this and/or is it true to be skeptical of vaccines?

Quantum Dots Deliver Vaccines and Invisibly Encode Vaccination History in Skin

 

[Scott Downey]

Dots amazing!

Anyone heard about this and/or is it true to be skeptical of vaccines?

Quantum Dots Deliver Vaccines and Invisibly Encode Vaccination History in Skin

People who have recovered naturally from covid are naturally immune. Those people do not need a vaccine.
Since 99+% recover and are them immune, the vaccine is superfluous, but don't tell that to the government! They want to inject you. You know today everything they desire to be under their control, including election results.

The vaccine will save some older people's lives, so that they can then die of something else like the flu, etc... instead of covid.

 

[SGO]

That's chips in the vaccine w/o salsa

 

[SGO]

Chips that have data.
Do the new vaccines have microdot chips that carry data?

 

[KenH]

This is potentially encouraging news. It would be nice to only have to be vaccinated once for the COVID-19 virus or maybe just every few years. But if it ends up that you have to be vaccinated yearly I can handle that. I'll just get vaccinated yearly when I get my flu shot.

 

[kathleenmariekg]

I have heard conflicting information about immunity. There are people that benefit greatly by the general population believing that the vaccine will be effective.

I know nothing. I have no opinion, because I trust no one.

I personally will not assume I am immune, even after confirmation that I was exposed.

Not all illness builds immunity. I wish it were that simple.

 

[Scott Downey]

I have heard conflicting information about immunity. There are people that benefit greatly by the general population believing that the vaccine will be effective.

I know nothing. I have no opinion, because I trust no one.

I personally will not assume I am immune, even after confirmation that I was exposed.

Not all illness builds immunity. I wish it were that simple.

What could happen is you might get a second infection in a few cells, but your immune system deal with it fast and efficiently, so you will have either zero symptoms or mild ones, you might think you have a cold, or feel a little off, and it will gone away in couple of days. In order for your immune system to cure you, you have to be infected or exposed. Antibodies will kill it off like on contact, when the antibody numbers drop, the immune cells recall the infection and make the antibodies and it is stopped immediately. Of course everybody eventually weakens and dies dont they regardless of vaccines or antibodies.

 

[SGO]

Just this strain right?

 

[kathleenmariekg]

What could happen is you might get a second infection in a few cells, but your immune system deal with it fast and efficiently, so you will have either zero symptoms or mild ones, you might think you have a cold, or feel a little off, and it will gone away in couple of days. In order for your immune system to cure you, you have to be infected or exposed. Antibodies will kill it off like on contact, when the antibody numbers drop, the immune cells recall the infection and make the antibodies and it is stopped immediately. Of course everybody eventually weakens and dies dont they regardless of vaccines or antibodies.

Or the infection could do permanent damage to organs, and the next infection becomes the deadly one. I personally know people overseas that have not fully recovered months later, and their doctors do not know if they will ever fully recover.

 

[kathleenmariekg]

Just this strain right?

I believe there are already multiple strains.

 

[Sai]

21 per million population. That’s what dies folks. Nothing to see here.


Joy unspeakable full of glory

 

[Reformed1689]

Or the infection could do permanent damage to organs, and the next infection becomes the deadly one. I personally know people overseas that have not fully recovered months later, and their doctors do not know if they will ever fully recover.

And my guess is those people have underlying health conditions so it isn't really a Covid issue.

 

[Scott Downey]

Seems flu deaths are totally out of sight out of mind with people right now. It kills many tens of thousands even with the flu shot.

 

[kathleenmariekg]

21 per million population. That’s what dies folks. Nothing to see here.

Joy unspeakable full of glory

That was not the deathrate overseas when the virus really got going. And that does not include the people that have not made full recoveries, there and here.

And my guess is those people have underlying health conditions so it isn't really a Covid issue.

No. Some of these people that I have known personally for years were under 40, slimmer, and in better health than most Americans. A young mother, cannot even go for a normal recreational stroll all these months later, and that is NOT what her life was like pre-Covid.

In the urban cities hit first last spring, there was a great disparity in WHO got the virus. The virus hit hardest the Latino populations, and not because of the reasons that are popularly discussed, and the real story of what happened to those people is even less popularly discussed. There is a reason I hightailed it across the country. I did not leave everything and everyone behind for no reason. Stuff was happening.

I believe this winter might be bad, and I was given the opportunity in the lull over the summer to prepare for what I believe is coming. I took it. I hope I am wrong. I want to be wrong. I want people to laugh at me and mock me come spring.

I know what I saw. I know what people I trust are telling me about overseas and back in the hardest hit urban areas

My shortwave radio came in. That is just one more thing I think I might need, come this winter. Yup, "nothing to see here," is what the media might keep telling us.

I don't like debating. I don't want to share things in public that were discussed with me privately. But, I am scared about this winter and about the long-term effects of the virus, reinfection, side-effects of the vaccine, the economy, and politics. I expect things to get messy. Real messy.

A lot happened in the last pandemic that never made the history books and the media. I expect this will be the same. Lots and lots of "nothing to see here."

 

[Reformed1689]

That was not the deathrate overseas when the virus really got going. And that does not include the people that have not made full recoveries, there and here.



No. Some of these people that I have known personally for years were under 40, slimmer, and in better health than most Americans. A young mother, cannot even go for a normal recreational stroll all these months later, and that is NOT what her life was like pre-Covid.

In the urban cities hit first last spring, there was a great disparity in WHO got the virus. The virus hit hardest the Latino populations, and not because of the reasons that are popularly discussed, and the real story of what happened to those people is even less popularly discussed. There is a reason I hightailed it across the country. I did not leave everything and everyone behind for no reason. Stuff was happening.

I believe this winter might be bad, and I was given the opportunity in the lull over the summer to prepare for what I believe is coming. I took it. I hope I am wrong. I want to be wrong. I want people to laugh at me and mock me come spring.

I know what I saw. I know what people I trust are telling me about overseas and back in the hardest hit urban areas

My shortwave radio came in. That is just one more thing I think I might need, come this winter. Yup, "nothing to see here," is what the media might keep telling us.

I don't like debating. I don't want to share things in public that were discussed with me privately. But, I am scared about this winter and about the long-term effects of the virus, reinfection, side-effects of the vaccine, the economy, and politics. I expect things to get messy. Real messy.

A lot happened in the last pandemic that never made the history books and the media. I expect this will be the same. Lots and lots of "nothing to see here."

If they had no underlying health conditions then they are the exception not the rule. Very few people under the age of 50 who are healthy have any real adverse effects from the virus.

 

[kathleenmariekg]

If they had no underlying health conditions then they are the exception not the rule. Very few people under the age of 50 who are healthy have any real adverse effects from the virus.

Says who? People that you trust?

I trust a whole new set of people than I did pre-Covid.

 

[Reformed1689]

Says who? People that you trust?

I trust a whole new set of people than I did pre-Covid.

Yes. I work with health insurance so I am talking to doctors all the time and I have three nurses in my family as well. Plus I get health updates each morning from each carrier I work with plus from the CDC and HHS. Most people who are healthy have no adverse effects. In fact, the majority of Covid patients have no symptoms or only mild symptoms.

 

[JonC]

It is interesting how much we discover with time.

A friend's daughter had a stroke last month. She is in her mid 20's. She recovered from COVID with no issues at all, but ended up with a blood clot (they believe from COVID). But they also believe that her asthma contributed to the effect of COVID.

So her asthma did not make COVID worse (very mild symptoms). But either the asthma or (more likely the asthma medication) coupled with having had COVID resulted in a stroke.

 

[kathleenmariekg]

Please forgive me for my question. I am not meaning to be rude or to start a debate. I am curious when I hear reports that are so different from what I have observed. I am keeping track of the types of subcultures where these reports are coming from.

Do these doctors and nurses and insurance plans care for marginalized and "illegal" populations, and the kind of "essential workers" that work in the lowest paid and part time and gig occupations that were hardest hit? And if so, did these people have access to after-care from these same providers? In the urban areas, the spread of the virus and the care that people received was entirely disproportionate. It was natural that the anecdotal reports coming out of these urban areas were very different within the different subcultures.

The hardest hit subcultures had no access to after-care and often never had access to testing unless they were hospitalized in critical condition. Testing positive meant that people were kicked out of shared housing and had to go homeless. In some areas, hospitals have set up tents outside and it is unclear how the people triaged but not admitted are entered into statistics.