Covid tyranny in Australia

[nonaeroterraqueous]

Those (for the most part) are not promoting vaccines.

Yes, they are. Don't insult my intelligence.

 

[JonC]

Yes, they are. Don't insult my intelligence.

So you are promoting refraining from being g vaccinated.

Why are you not comfortable with just posting facts - those who died of the vaccine alongside those who died of the virus....since death seems to "be your bag" (to borrow from Austin)?

Why not provide facts on both sides and let people decide for themselves?

Let's look at the over 600,000 US covid deaths and the approximately 6,000 people who died after the vax (from underlying causes, from the vax, from unrelated causes, and from the virus).

Looks like you may be the thing you complain about....just the other side of the coin.

 

[Scott Downey]

Australia painted as a ‘dystopian nightmare’ as footage goes viral - YouTube
Videos hit harder than words Pure insanity. 1.5 covid deaths per day brought this on.

New Zealand is also awful.

 

[JonC]

Australia painted as a ‘dystopian nightmare’ as footage goes viral - YouTube
Videos hit harder than words Pure insanity. 1.5 covid deaths per day brought this on.

New Zealand is also awful.

Glad I am not there.

 

[just-want-peace]

——— Let's look at the over 600,000 US covid deaths and the approximately 6,000 people who died after the vax (from underlying causes, from the vax, from unrelated causes, and from the virus).

I would really love to KNOW just how many “covid deaths” are legitimate!?!?
IOW, how many would have died anyway with the cause of death being heart, kidney, lungs or whatever???

 

[RipponRedeaux]

I would really love to KNOW just how many “covid deaths” are legitimate!?!?
IOW, how many would have died anyway with the cause of death being heart, kidney, lungs or whatever???

It has been said that the "COVID deaths" have been inflated by 1,600%

 

[JonC]

I would really love to KNOW just how many “covid deaths” are legitimate!?!?
IOW, how many would have died anyway with the cause of death being heart, kidney, lungs or whatever???

How many vaccination deaths are legitimate?

 

[JonC]

It has been said that the "COVID deaths" have been inflated by 1,600%

Many things have been said.

 

[just-want-peace]

How many vaccination deaths are legitimate?

Sorry, I miss the point of your question!

 

[JonC]

Sorry, I miss the point of your question!

You say that not all covid deaths are legitimate (and I agreee).

But to avoid hypocrisy you need to apply that same standard to vaccine deaths.

We know not all post vaccine deaths were because of the vaccine, and many had pre-existing conditions.

So how many should be subtracted from the vacvibe death statistic?

 

[just-want-peace]

You say that not all covid deaths are legitimate (and I agreee).

But to avoid hypocrisy you need to apply that same standard to vaccine deaths.

We know not all post vaccine deaths were because of the vaccine, and many had pre-existing conditions.

So how many should be subtracted from the vacvibe death statistic?

OK, I see where you are coming from.
I am NOT into the vax/no vax argument, but my concern is how much sleaziness has been pumped into the magnitude of this "pandemic". I honestly question whether it was, IN REALITY, worse than a season of old timey flu but ----- "NEVER LET A CRISIS GO TO WASTE"
This is why I don't place a lot of faith in ANYTHING the "experts" say anymore, as basically most that I've seen dispensing their sage (?) advice, have politics dripping from their nose!

 

[JonC]

OK, I see where you are coming from.
I am NOT into the vax/no vax argument, but my concern is how much sleaziness has been pumped into the magnitude of this "pandemic". I honestly question whether it was, IN REALITY, worse than a season of old timey flu but ----- "NEVER LET A CRISIS GO TO WASTE"
This is why I don't place a lot of faith in ANYTHING the "experts" say anymore, as basically most that I've seen dispensing their sage (?) advice, have politics dripping from their nose!

I agree.

There are two political agendas using the virus-vaccination issue for their agenda. They are liars.

The problem is people end up with doctors and experts on both sides....that is, with political agendas....and truth sprinkled about.

People do not know who to believe.

That is why I only deal with doctors I know and trust. They may be wrong, but at least I trust they have my best interest at heart. I'm willing to live with that.

 

[Reynolds]

So you are promoting refraining from being g vaccinated.

Why are you not comfortable with just posting facts - those who died of the vaccine alongside those who died of the virus....since death seems to "be your bag" (to borrow from Austin)?

Why not provide facts on both sides and let people decide for themselves?

Let's look at the over 600,000 US covid deaths and the approximately 6,000 people who died after the vax (from underlying causes, from the vax, from unrelated causes, and from the virus).

Looks like you may be the thing you complain about....just the other side of the coin.

The 600,000 deaths are because Doctors are too stupid and scared to treat Covid properly.
There are protocols that work. Most U.S. Docs scared to try them.

 

[Reynolds]

I agree.

There are two political agendas using the virus-vaccination issue for their agenda. They are liars.

The problem is people end up with doctors and experts on both sides....that is, with political agendas....and truth sprinkled about.

People do not know who to believe.

That is why I only deal with doctors I know and trust. They may be wrong, but at least I trust they have my best interest at heart. I'm willing to live with that.

Why you expect us to care what your Doctors say? You don't care what ours say.

 

[Revmitchell]

The 600,000 deaths are because Doctors are too stupid and scared to treat Covid properly.
There are protocols that work. Most U.S. Docs scared to try them.

that figure is likely inaccurate

 

[Reynolds]

that figure is likely inaccurate

Agreed.

 

[Scott Downey]

Appears Australia is following a Covid Camp style model proposed by the CDC
Queensland starts work on its own regional COVID-19 quarantine facility (sbs.com.au)
Envisions covid camps built across the country to house and isolate covid patients in Australia.
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Queensland and the federal government have been working on plans for an 800-bed quarantine facility at Pinkenba in Brisbane, but the state has long pushed for a second 1000-bed facility at Wellcamp near Toowoomba.

The latter was deemed "unsuitable" by Health Minister Greg Hunt in June.

But Ms Palaszczuk is moving ahead with Wellcamp, being built by the Wagner Group, without federal support.

Construction is already underway with 500 beds to be operating by the end of the year with another 500 to come online by the first quarter of 2022.

"This is going to be a great boost for our defence against the Delta virus in this country and, in fact, I believe we need regional facilities right across the country," Ms Palaszczuk told reporters.

"We are going to be dealing with Delta for some time and if we want to open Australia, we want to open our states up, regional quarantine facilities are the second part of the answer - the first part of the answer is vaccines."

The facility will have single, double and family rooms in cabin-style accommodation without any adjoining hallways.

 

[Scott Downey]

Australian Police Use Tear Gas, Pepper Spray, Rubber Bullets Against Melbourne Protests After 200+ Days in Lockdown - Vision Times

200+ days of lockdown for this, New Zealand does similar things due to 1 covid case.
James Newbury MP
@newbury3186
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Aug 17
Read this slowly:
Today, there are 12 Victorians in hospital with COVID - 2 in ICU.
This week, 148 teenagers will be rushed to hospital after self-harming and suffering suicidal thoughts.
Now please read it again.
The mental health shadow pandemic is real.

 

[Scott Downey]

Australia is a weak impotent and poorly run country, they have 25 million people with a land area slightly smaller than the US. China should take control of their politics, they already have partial control with the covid psychosis bioweapon.

Happening here too, Biden and here we have Kate Brown, Oregon governor.
Oregon Gov. Kate Brown Attended Meeting With United Front Association, Signed Deal With Beijing in 2015 - Vision Times

According to a 2019 report published by Hoover Institution Press titled China’s Influence &American Interests – Promoting Constructive Vigilance, the CPAFFC is described as being “effectively the public face of the CCP’s UFWD.”

Its president, Li Xiaolin, is daughter of Li Xiannian, former President of the People’s Republic of China.

“It is not covert and, for all the connotations conjured up in its name, it remains avowedly an arm of the party-state. In that respect, the Friendship Association remains a reliable conduit for passing messages between the two countries, especially at a time, as in recent years, when senior-level political exchanges have been fraught,” adds the report.

From China:

• Wang Dongming, Party Secretary of Sichuan Provincial CPC Committee;
• Wang Anshun, Mayor of Beijing;
• Huang Qifan, Mayor of Chongqing;
• Li Qiang, Governor of Zhejiang Province;
• Guo Shuqing, Governor of Shandong Province;
• Lou Qinjian, Governor of Shaanxi Province; and
• Li Xiaolin, President of the CPAFFC.

From the United States:

• California State Governor Jerry Brown;
• Washington State Governor Jay Inslee;
• Michigan State Governor Rick Snyder;
• Iowa State Governor Terry Branstad; and
• Oregon State Governor Kate Brown.

 

[Scott Downey]

Sydney covid: Police helicopter warning beachgoers to move on sparks debate | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site


Footage of a police helicopter warning beachgoers in Sydney’s eastern suburbs about Covid-19 breaches has sparked a debate about cops being too lenient.