Cream of tartar and vinegar

One can die because of drinking too much water. To willfully do such a thing would be sin.

 

Well to be straight to the point - NO.

I am not sure the point your trying to make Gina. I am guessing that your trying to point out that some people's personal beliefs on alcohol go beyond that of the Bible.

Look, anyone who can read God's word can see that the Bible says a lot about drunkenness and abuse of alcohol. There are lots of warnings about it and it is sin. If someone wants to take that a step further and keep their home or life alcohol free how does that hurt you? Are they judging you for taking a drink or having alcohol in your home? So what, you know what the Bible says.

I am a former drunk and for me to take a drink would be a sin. Not because the Bible forbids all consumption of alcohol, but because I have abused alcohol in the past and made a covenant with God not to go down that road again. I have no alcohol in my home and I don't cook with it, for two reasons. First, I know I have a weakness for it and if I knew it was in the cabinet I would at times be tempted by it. You can call that fear if you want. It is, I am afraid and don't want to revert to what I once was. Second, I told God I would not.

I think the hardest and most important lesson I learned from AA was that what is ok for some people is not ok for me. I don't condemn others for taking a drink. I honestly wish that I could enjoy a beer with dinner. But I know myself and I know,or I am afraid, that I would not stop with one.

Look Gina, if you want to take a drink every now and then and you don't have a problem that is fine with me, I am not judging you. But don't judge me if I choose not to have it in my house. I know it is not a Biblical command, but I also know it is what I need to do. And if I recommend that lifestyle choice to others, especially those who have the same weaknesses I do, then don't try to say I am wrong to do so. I am not saying it is a Biblical mandate. I am saying that based on my life experience and on the warnings of God's word it is a wise choice.

You know there are lots of wise choices that are not commandments of God. Paul acknowledges this several places

Now Paul is not talking about alcohol in any of these verses. But what he is establishing is what I am talking about, that sometimes it is wise to go a step beyond the Law, to go a step beyond the minimum of obedience.

It is my opinion, not a biblical mandate, but my opinion, that you would do well to keep your life alcohol free. Especially if you have had trouble with abuse in the past. You don't need it to cook, I cook all the time. We don't need it to purify our water anymore, our water supply is clean. Yes, I know it tastes good and I used to enjoy it a great deal. And it helps you relax, and it makes you feel good. But it is a mocker and will deceive you. And once deceived it will enslave you and cause you to sin. The safest course is to stay clear of it.

Sorry for the long post, I will get off the soap box now.

 

For one to say that God does not forbid the consumption of alcohol in Scripture is showing a blatant disregard to the Holy Scriptures or ones ignorance. However if one is so bound and determined to condone drinking why would you call yourself a "fundmentalist"?
After the rapture (maybe you alcohol drinkers don't believe in the rapture either) in Rev. 4 we read how the four beasts worship 24 hours a day saying Holy, Holy, Holy Lord God Almighty. Then the 24 elders fall down and worship Him that sat on the throne.... If this is a picture of what we will experience in Heaven, the holiness and the Righteousness of a thrice Holy God, why would we want to be as dirty and vile as we can and still be included in that crowd in Rev.4 & 5? Here we are telling the lost world that we are different, IICor.5:17 and our walk has changed, Eph.2:2,10 and our body is a temple for a Holy God, ICor.6:19 because we have been bought with the precious, sinless Blood, (His own Blood, Heb.9:12, Acts 20:28) of the Lamb of God, IPet.1:18.
Here we are on Christian site a Baptist!! a Fundamential !!! site grovelling in things the world does, dancing, drinking ect. and doing it in the name of christianity. I believe I read about this in the Bible, Matt.7:21-23.

 

I've lowered my expectations to the point where they've already been met

Very well said!

 

What a fox (and not in a good way LOL)!

I agree with Gina L.

Oh thou that standest in judgement, why is our dear Brother Paul so concerned about people being drunk and gluttonous at the Lord's Supper in I Corinthians? Do you suppose they brought their own drink?

And why was our Saviour called a winebibber and a glutton? Did he not eat and drink?

Why did Brother Paul

 

Well fooey, I hit the button too soon.

Why did Brother Paul tell Timothy to take a little wine for his stomach's sake?

 

I you women really don't know the answers to what has been posted you need to get into a good Bible preaching church. I am not going to waste my time trying to explain Scripture to people that don't believe it. If that is being judgmental, so be it.

 

LOL! (plus the obligatory extra letters to make this post long enough)

 

Fox no one here is going to let you get away with claiming scripture says things it does not. Sorry, but we have our own Bibles and learned years ago how to read them.

The Bible does not call for complete temperance and does not condemn the moderate use of alcohol. It contains lots of commands against drunkenness. It contains lots of warnings about how alcohol use can lead to drunkenness. It records that some individuals were called by God to lives of complete temperance.

You say we need to get into good "Bible Preaching" churches. Perhaps you need to just read your Bible a bit more for yourself.

I am not judging you for your stand against alcohol Fox, as I posted earlier I neither drink nor have it in my house. But to claim the Bible says something that it does not is wrong, even if your intentions are pure.

 

Wisdom right here.

 

"Take a little wine for thy stomach's sake..." You must have missed the next line........"and rub it in..."raying:

If one wants to drink alcohol, he will find a biblical basis for doing so, and likewise, if one wants to oppose it, there is a verse for that too.

I personally oppose alcohol consumption cos I was called out at 2:AM too many nights to break up a family battle after alcohol consumption. I have seen woman battered and bruised, doors smashed down, tables crashed and children crying. That was the end of my little glass of brandy each night............besides, I had a dog that liked brandy and often drank the glass before I did....

Moderation is really the key. Moderation and discretion in all things, rather than chapter and verse in this case.

I still prefer to drive drunks home when they call for me and my motorcar.

Cheers,

Jim

 

Water has a boiling point of 100 C, or 212 degrees F. Ethanol has a boiling point of 78.4 C, or about 173 degrees F. So this means when the temperature of a ethanol reaches 173, it all starts evaporating, but it takes much more energy to get the same volume of water to reach 212. So the rate depends on volume of the liquid, but alcohol evaporates faster because it doesn't need to be heated as much.

Now please tell me how it is that I feel no effect from alcohol when I eat food prepared with it if the alcohol is still present.

 

Um...I'm not a woman, and I am in a good Bible preaching church. This has nothing to do with the OP whatsoever.

 

You forgot pants-wearing.

 

and non KJV's known as MV's

 

You people have help to explain this Scripture,

Rev 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
Rev 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
Rev 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
Rev 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and [that] the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
Rev 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
Rev 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.