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The unbeliever does not receive the things of the Spirit of God Van. That means no milk or meat.
The unregenerate do not have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit therefore they have no 'spiritual ability.' That's oxymoronic. Since they do not have the Holy Spirit they do not have your made-up doctrine of 'spiritual ability' limited or otherwise.
New Agers speak of 'spirituality' a great deal of the time. But that has no reference to the Holy Spirit. No one can be ''spiritual' without the Holy Spirit. 1 Cor. 2:14 folks have no spirituality whatsoever. They cannot understand the things of the Spirit. These unregenerate people regard things of the Spirit as foolishness. These folks are perishing.

 

You quoted nothing from me and yet you make up a post with no reference to what I said.

 

But he was speaking the truth. You need to study the Scriptures Van, and not your convoluted interpretations.

Lost sinners can not receive in and of themselves any spiritual truth.

 

1 Cor. 2:14 does not say "spiritual solid food things.' It says the unbeliever does not receive the things of the Spirit of God.
Get biblical Van.

 

"Husbands, love your wives just as Christ loved the church and gave himself for her." (Eph. 5:25 --NET)

Christ gave Himself up for the Church = His Body = His Sheep = His Elect =His sheep =His beloved. There are so many other designations for the chosen ones for whom he laid down his life.

Christ died for His sheep -- not for the goats. See Matthew 25:31 and following.

Jesus prayed for His own --not just the disciples, but for all those who will believe in Him through the testimony of the disciples. See John 17:20. He didn't pray for everyone, but for His own.

 

Question. Did Christ propitiate the sins of anyone who ends up in Perdition?

 

I took what Van said on May 3, 2012 as what he earnestly believes.

 

The ones in 1 Cor. 3:1 were referenced as being in Christ. Being in Christ means that they are regenerate, believers, saved, indwelt by the Holy Spirit, Christians.

 

It says very plainly that "But a natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned." (1 Cor. 2:14 --NASB)

Someone once said to "stick with what God [has] revealed in Scripture. The Apostle was led to write what he did for our instruction. We need to take what he has said at face-value.

When you add to the Bible Van, you are taking away from what God has revealed. And your addition/subtraction of Scripture does not bode well for you, regardless of what your professed study methods may be.

 

One tactic of the erroneous teaching is attempting to place others in fault of what the teacher of error presents.

Here is a Corinthian passage that presents the opposite of the teacher of error:

22Jews demand signs and Greeks search for wisdom, 23but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.25For the foolishness of God is wiser than man’s wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man’s strength.26Brothers, consider the time of your calling: Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were powerful; not many were of noble birth. 27But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 28He chose the lowly and despised things of the world, and the things that are not, to nullify the things that are, 29so that no one may boast in His presence.30It is because of Him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God: our righteousness, holiness, and redemption. 31Therefore, as it is written: “Let him who boasts boast in the Lord.”
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Teachers of error inevitably puff up their own and human ability to attain what is only God’s to grant.

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Yes, indeed. Christ died for the world of the elect.

I'll be citing snippets of verses for your instruction and edification.

Rev. 5:9 : because you were slain, and with your blood you purchased for God persons from every tribe and language and people and nation.
Rev. 7:9,10 : and there before me wasa great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands. And they cried out in a loud voice : "Salvation belongs to our God, who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb."
Rev. 14:4 : They were purchased from among mankind.
Rev. 17:14 : Because he is Lord of lords and King of kings --- and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers.
Eph. 5:2 : just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.
Eph. 5:23 : Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior.
Eph. 5:25 : Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her.
Acts 20:28 : Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.
John 10:11, 15 : I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me --just as the Father knows me and I know the Father ---and I lay down my life for the sheep.

1 Peter 1,2 : To God's elect, exiles scattered throughout the provinces of Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia and Bithynia who have been chosen
1 Pe. 2:9 : But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God's special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.
2 Tim. 1:9 : He has saved us...because of his own purpose and grace. This grace was given us before the beginning of time.
2 Tim. 2:10 : Therefore I endure everything for the sake of the elect

2 Tim. 2:19 : The Lord knows those who are his
Titus 1:1 : the faith of God's elect
Titus 2:14 : who gave himself for us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good.

 

The above is an easily understood question. Either Christ did not propitiate the sins of those in Perdition or He did. Which is it and why?