Creation in Six Days?

[Analgesic]

At this point I would like to make a clarification for the sake of accuracy.

#1. The gap between Gen 1:1 saying God made everything and 1:2 where we find that on day one the earth is already formless and void and covered by water in perfact night (no sun and no moon) - does NOT allow for "A living planet previously populated by life waiting for a second creation".

All the "Gap" does is propose that Gen 1-2 is dealing with the Creation of Earth and its sun and moon - not the entire universe in 7 days. It saying nothing about evolution. It opens a door for the earth geologically to be older than 6,000 years but not for life on earth to be older than that.

I also opens a door for other solar systems to have been created prior to earth and for life beyond earth to have been created before earth came into existence as a living planet.

#2. Those who try to co-opt or hijack that possible gap to eisegete into the text "LIFE created by evolutionism" find nothing in the text to suggest that anything evolved. They just have to "make it up". The fact is very clear that Gen 1-2 DOES give the REAL origin of ALL life on earth.

EVEN atheist darwinists would not be able to come up with life evolving on an earth that had no sun.

in Christ,

Bob

Well said.

 

[booklady]

I asked this question in another thread under a different title. Since it never was answered I thought I would ask it in a thread of its own (modified a little):

If one just read the Bible and did not know what "long-age" evolution teaches, then what would this person probably believe about how long God took to create, whether there was a "gap" of some kind, etc.?

They would have to believe that God created everything is 6 literal days. Genesis chapter 1 does not mention any sort of "gap."

What else could "and the evening and the morning were the first day, second day, third day"... possibly mean? If one evening and one morning passes isn't that a 24 hour period?

And God saw every thing that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. Genesis 1:31

 

[SBCPreacher]

...Focus on the Family, a Fundamentalist Christian agency...

That's funny. I've never heard or read that that's what they call themselves.

 

[BobRyan]

What else could "and the evening and the morning were the first day, second day, third day"... possibly mean? If one evening and one morning passes isn't that a 24 hour period?

True - one evening one morning - one day (24 hours) - and that is what Genesis 1 requires and that is the only way that the Sabbath commandment works.

"SIX days the LORD Created the heavens, earth, sea and all that is in them ... SIX days YOU shall labor and do all your work".

It has to be a literal creation week for making all life on earth and our solar system.

The only "gap" was between Gen 1:1 and 1:2 where vs 1 is the fact that God created ALL things in the universe -- but then in vs 2 we start with the "specifics" of our earth, our solar system and all life on earth.

The point is - it leaves no room for a "prior earth" or "prior life on earth" that is atheist-darwinist evolution based.

EVEN atheist darwinists would object to the scenario where the Sun and moon are created AFTER plant life emerges in full bloom on earth. So no way to "wrench" the Bible account into Atheist Darwinist evolutionism.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

That's funny. I've never heard or read that that's what they call themselves.

That is not me - it is quote from the "religioustolerance" link given in that post. I forgot the quote html editing

 

[SBCPreacher]

That makes more sense. Thanks.

 

[Deacon]

If one just read the Bible and did not know what "long-age" evolution teaches, then what would this person probably believe about how long God took to create, whether there was a "gap" of some kind, etc.? (underlining added)

If one only used the bible without other evidences then I'd have to agree that you'd come away with a 6-day creationist viewpoint.
You'd also believe that the sun revolves around the earth
and that the earth has corners and is supported by pillars.

Part of interpretation is examining all the evidence.
We don't interpret the bible in a vacume.
God's creation also reveals something about him.

Many of us believe that both the bible and God's creation tell the same message
However some of us interpret that message differently
Hence, the debates...

Rob

 

[BobRyan]

If one only used the bible without other evidences then I'd have to agree that you'd come away with a 6-day creationist viewpoint.

Hmm - and how do you suppose that fits in with "exegesis"??

Perfectly??

So in your view is "exegesis" a good thing or a bad thing?

You'd also believe that the sun revolves around the earth

Not true. Even Einsteint admitted that motion can be expressed with reference to the observer. You are seeking a quarrel with scripture where none is included.

Even WE have "sunrise and sunset" times published weekly without having to "redefine science" to read it correctly IN Context for we all can SEE that the sun appears to rise and set and so we assign the TIMES accordingly.

You rely on a distinction without a difference to justify atheist darwinist storytelling.

and that the earth has corners and is supported by pillars.

Again -- another false claim for the Bible.

The points of the compass STILL IN USE TODAY do not require us redefine science or draw eatth as a "square". NEITHER is the "EARTH SQUARE" idea found in the moral law.

We don't interpret the bible in a vacume.
God's creation also reveals something about him.

Many of us believe that both the bible and God's creation tell the same message

Now see - we CAN agree one something.

Back to exegesis -- what was your answer?

in Christ,

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

R.C Sproul Ligonier ministries had a good radio broadcast today on the origins of atheist darwinism and it's foundational opposition to Christianity.

http://www.ligonier.org/rym.php

in Christ,

Bob

 

[TCGreek]

I think I've discovered the weakness of the gap theory argument: too many gaps in the argument.

 

[BobRyan]

Some use the GAP to suggest "Old Earth- Young Creation of life on earth".

Others make the extreme claim that ALL life in the Universe (angels etc) got created when life on earth got created - but those other beings are just being ignored in Gen 1.

Gen 1 does not give the chronological sequence for the creation of the entire Universe - but for earth - all life on earth and the Sun and moon.

 

[angelfire]

creation in six days

Hi CCDNT
Yes , why not? Either your God is BIG enough to do the job in six , 24 , hour days as Moses wrote ; as indicated by the term evenings and mornings , OR He isnt. The term YOM meaning a great expanse of time or a SHORT period of time here is taken out of context if you apply long indeterminate expanses of time. ---Where in ANY translation does a long expanse of time all of a sudden become a 24 hour period ,if it wasnt a 24 hour period to begin with? MY GOD did it in six literal days. How about yours?
in Christ
angelfire

 

[BobRyan]

"SIX days you shall labor and do all your work but the 7th day is the Sabbath.. for IN SIX DAYS the Lord MADE... and RESTED on the Seventh day" Exodus 20 makes it clear that when Moses says "day" for the 7 days of creation week he means a single revolution of the earth - 24 hours.