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Critical warning for KJB believers from Bryan Ross

Logos1560

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The alarmism directed at people who use the KJV is wearying.
What "alarmism" is directed at people who use the KJV. I use the KJV, having read it over 60 years. I accept and believe the KJV as what it actually is.

Pointing out the problems with non-true and non-scriptural human KJV-only reasoning/teaching is not "alarmism". Aspects of human KJV-only teaching is false doctrine that is not taught in Scripture.
 

Ben1445

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What "alarmism" is directed at people who use the KJV. I use the KJV, having read it over 60 years. I accept and believe the KJV as what it actually is.
To quote the thread,

“Critical warning for KJB believers from Bryan Ross”​

So am I to believe that I should not believe my Bible? You say you also use it. You don’t believe it?

I don’t mind having discussions about it. But I see more people attacking KJV users. They want the liberty to use the version of their choice, but they attack anyone who uses KJV. They don’t allow others the freedom they desire for themselves.
Given your posts and name, I wouldn’t know that you used it except for your own statement.
I am not bothered by what version you use either. I just want the same consideration as what people expect for themselves.

Pointing out the problems with non-true and non-scriptural human KJV-only reasoning/teaching is not "alarmism". Aspects of human KJV-only teaching is false doctrine that is not taught in Scripture.
If you are not on board with it, then leave your KJV only church.
If you are not in them, great. Don’t forbid them. If they are not against us they are for us.

Philippians 1:18
What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.

If Paul could rejoice in the pretense of Christ preached, surely we can endure Christ preached in sincerity.

As far as the false doctrine, which one is brings damnation to the believers of it?
 

Logos1560

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You say you also use it. You don’t believe it?

I don’t mind having discussions about it. But I see more people attacking KJV users. They want the liberty to use the version of their choice, but they attack anyone who uses KJV.
I clearly stated that I believe the KJV as what it actually is. I believe the truth concerning the KJV. The KJV is the word of God translated into English in the same sense (univocally) as the pre-1611 English Bibles are the word of God translated into English and in the same sense (univocally) as post-1611 English Bibles such as the NKJV are the word of God translated into English. The KJV is an English Bible translation; it is not the original Scriptures given directly by inspiration of God to the prophets and apostles. I believe all that the Scriptures state and teach about themselves. The Scriptures do not teach that the word of God is bound to the textual criticism decisions, Bible revision decisions, and translation decisions of one exclusive group of Church of England men in 1611.

You seem to jump to a wrong conclusion since people are not attacked for using the KJV or for believing the KJV as what it actually is--an English Bible translation. The sound criticism is when people make non-true and non-scriptural exclusive only claims for the KJV or make inconsistent and non-true accusations against other English Bible translations. KJV-only advocates do not apply the exact same measures/standards to the KJV that they try to apply inconsistently and thus unjustly to other English Bible translations such as the NKJV.
 

Ben1445

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I clearly stated that I believe the KJV as what it actually is. I believe the truth concerning the KJV. The KJV is the word of God translated into English in the same sense (univocally) as the pre-1611 English Bibles are the word of God translated into English and in the same sense (univocally) as post-1611 English Bibles such as the NKJV are the word of God translated into English. The KJV is an English Bible translation; it is not the original Scriptures given directly by inspiration of God to the prophets and apostles. I believe all that the Scriptures state and teach about themselves. The Scriptures do not teach that the word of God is bound to the textual criticism decisions, Bible revision decisions, and translation decisions of one exclusive group of Church of England men in 1611.

You seem to jump to a wrong conclusion since people are not attacked for using the KJV or for believing the KJV as what it actually is--an English Bible translation. The sound criticism is when people make non-true and non-scriptural exclusive only claims for the KJV or make inconsistent and non-true accusations against other English Bible translations. KJV-only advocates do not apply the exact same measures/standards to the KJV that they try to apply inconsistently and thus unjustly to other English Bible translations such as the NKJV.
I agree with you this far.
Now what are the damnable heresies of KJVO that we must protect against?
 
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