Cruz, Romney and the rest! A bunch of cutthroats?

[blessedwife318]

Sister, I always enjoy your comments as they are mostly well thought out and demonstrate wisdom! HOWEVER, this is one time I will have to totally ask just what flavor kool aid you were drinking when you jumped to this extreme conclusion? It seems a little like Chicken Little, "the sjy is falling, the sky is falling!" Roflmao

I pretty much became convinced of this when he said that when he bragged that he would order our soldiers to kill the families of terrorists to get information from them and when he was informed that is a war crime he doubled down on what he would do. That is a tyrant and I will never vote for him.

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[righteousdude2]

Trump states he is a "Presbyterian" but has also been linked to the "Reformed Church of America" or something like that. Let's look at an interview with Trump on the issue,
"Frank Luntz asked Donald Trump on Saturday, “Have you ever asked God for forgiveness?” The question elicited some laughter from the audience, though the Republican candidate seemed to take the matter seriously.
“I’m not sure I have,” Trump said. “I just go on and try to do a better job from there. I don’t think so. I think if I do something wrong, I think, I just try and make it right. I don’t bring God into that picture. I don’t.”
He quickly added in garbled syntax, “We I take, when we go, and church and when I drink my little wine – which is about the only wine I drink – and have my little cracker, I guess that’s a form of asking for forgiveness, and I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed, OK? But, you know, to me that’s important, I do that, but in terms of officially, I could say, ‘Absolutely!’ and everybody, I don’t think in terms of that. I think in terms of, let’s go on and let’s make it right.”"

Cruz is Southern Baptist and aligns with the PRO-Life movement, he is against gay marriage and would be a proponent of prayer and seeking God's leadership.

So pray about who God would have you support if you haven't voted in a primary yet!

He says he is a SBC. If the demeanor and love demonstrated on this board at times is reflective of Baptist's then Cruz is a perfect fit. I wouldn't vote for him because he states he is baptist, because there are a ton of people claiming to be a baptist; but their walk and talk say something differently. Cruz is fooling a lot of folks. I don't buy it. Sorry! Besides, a believer in the Oval Office would be a nightmare, as their actions and witness would be so bad, many would fall away from the church and many more would never come to Jesus, thinking if that is Christian, no thanks!

 

[righteousdude2]

Actually I'm looking at his past actions not what he says. And I said nothing about saving America, I was talking about the GOP establishment. Now if we want to talk about lies and innuendo look no further then Trump.
Do I think Cruz is perfect? No. Do I think he is the best person to ever run for office? No. Do I think he will make the best president ever? No. Do I think he is the best conservative I have ever been able to vote for? Yes and that says more about the GOP then it does Cruz in my opinion. Now how would you answer the same question about Trump?

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How you describe Cruz is just about how I describe Trump. I'd rather have a transparent oaf in office, than someone professing Christ, and later letting us down with broken promises, and granting amnesty to his fellow Latino's. Plus, he is Canadian-American. Something just not right with that combination.

Sorry sister, Cruz is still like the Garden serpent. He will tell you anything to accomplish his mission.

 

[blessedwife318]

How you describe Cruz is just about how I describe Trump. I'd rather have a transparent oaf in office, than someone professing Christ, and later letting us down with broken promises, and granting amnesty to his fellow Latino's. Plus, he is Canadian-American. Something just not right with that combination.

Sorry sister, Cruz is still like the Garden serpent. He will tell you anything to accomplish his mission.

So you would rather have a liberal who says whatever the polls tell him to say that day, then someone who actually has actions to back up what he says about himself. Besides they both claim to be Christians, Trump just doesn't think he needs forgiveness or name a favorite Bible verse. Cruz I will admit I have doubts about the orthodoxy of his faith but that doesn't change the fact that he is the best conservative in the race.

 

[righteousdude2]

So you would rather have a liberal who says whatever the polls tell him to say that day, then someone who actually has actions to back up what he says about himself. Besides they both claim to be Christians, Trump just doesn't think he needs forgiveness or name a favorite Bible verse. Cruz I will admit I have doubts about the orthodoxy of his faith but that doesn't change the fact that he is the best conservative in the race.

I'd rather have a liberal conservative then a typical politician that does nothing once they reach their goal. Cruz will disappoint you, I guarantee it. If that is what you want, don't let me spoil your party.

 

[revmwc]

How you describe Cruz is just about how I describe Trump. I'd rather have a transparent oaf in office, than someone professing Christ, and later letting us down with broken promises, and granting amnesty to his fellow Latino's. Plus, he is Canadian-American. Something just not right with that combination.

Sorry sister, Cruz is still like the Garden serpent. He will tell you anything to accomplish his mission.

So let see you would rather not have Cruz who you say is as a bad example for Christian and have a Trump who you see as good and truthful or have Holary in office than a Christian, is that what I am to understand?

 

[blessedwife318]

I'd rather have a liberal conservative then a typical politician that does nothing once they reach their goal. Cruz will disappoint you, I guarantee it. If that is what you want, don't let me spoil your party.

You don't know what I expect out of Cruz beyond cleaning house. Which given how the establishment feels about him does not seem you be an unreasonable expectation.
You do realize that liberal conservative is an oxymoron right?
Although with Trump you can just drop the second word and you would be right on. Can I ask you something? A lot of people on here are down on Trump and yet you focus on me almost like you take it personally that I think your guy is a Trojan Horse. I have said that from the beginning and yet you still quote me for not liking or at least supporting Trump. Why is that?

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[Zaac]

He says he is a SBC. If the demeanor and love demonstrated on this board at times is reflective of Baptist's then Cruz is a perfect fit. I wouldn't vote for him because he states he is baptist, because there are a ton of people claiming to be a baptist; but their walk and talk say something differently.

Cruz is fooling a lot of folks. I don't buy it. Sorry! Besides, a believer in the Oval Office would be a nightmare, as their actions and witness would be so bad, many would fall away from the church and many more would never come to Jesus, thinking if that is Christian, no thanks!

Did you vote for Romney? What happened to that "we're electing a President, not a pastor" line?

 

[Zaac]

So let see you would rather not have Cruz who you say is as a bad example for Christian and have a Trump who you see as good and truthful or have Holary in office than a Christian, is that what I am to understand?

Makes no sense, huh?

 

[InTheLight]

RD2, I fixed your post for ya...

I think that you are giving the man from New York way toooooo much credit! He is conniving, a slick Willy type, and not what you think he is! Like Eve and the serpent, I think you have been conned into believing that the fruit hanging from the Trump tree is life giving, and it may not hurt for you to rethink your thought process before you knight the man as the savior of America! He continues to use innuendos and lies to get votes.

He is a liar. And we know who dwells in sin of lies? The father of lies himself, the devil! Does that make Trump the devil? Not necessarily so, just that he is apparently influenced by the spirit of deception, and that is dangerous for all and not a gift that will give rebirth to Washington and clean house!

 

[Zaac]

RD2, I fixed your post for ya...

I think that you are giving the man from New York way toooooo much credit! He is conniving, a slick Willy type, and not what you think he is! Like Eve and the serpent, I think you have been conned into believing that the fruit hanging from the Trump tree is life giving, and it may not hurt for you to rethink your thought process before you knight the man as the savior of America! He continues to use innuendos and lies to get votes.

He is a liar. And we know who dwells in sin of lies? The father of lies himself, the devil! Does that make Trump the devil? Not necessarily so, just that he is apparently influenced by the spirit of deception, and that is dangerous for all and not a gift that will give rebirth to Washington and clean house!

I don't get it. Because they are both "anti-immigrant, build a great big wall", RD2 seems to be fawning over Trump like he's a piece of New York styled cheesecake.

 

[revmwc]

I don't get it. Because they are both "anti-immigrant, build a great big wall", RD2 seems to be fawning over Trump like he's a piece of New York styled cheesecake.

Define anti-immigrant

 

[Zaac]

Define anti-immigrant

You'd have to read some of his posts on the subject to get a real feel for how it's being used. I don't believe he nor many of the Trump supporters are really as anti-immigrant as they try to portray themselves. It's more of a "they're angry" and someone has to be the recipient of the anger. It's like a fad.

 

[revmwc]

You'd have to read some of his posts on the subject to get a real feel for how it's being used. I don't believe he nor many of the Trump supporters are really as anti-immigrant as they try to portray themselves. It's more of a "they're angry" and someone has to be the recipient of the anger. It's like a fad.

Immigrants started this nation. The term should be anti-illegal immigrants. Stop the flow of those who illegally cross our borders.

 

[FriendofSpurgeon]

Trump states he is a "Presbyterian" but has also been linked to the "Reformed Church of America" or something like that. Let's look at an interview with Trump on the issue,
"Frank Luntz asked Donald Trump on Saturday, “Have you ever asked God for forgiveness?” The question elicited some laughter from the audience, though the Republican candidate seemed to take the matter seriously.
“I’m not sure I have,” Trump said. “I just go on and try to do a better job from there. I don’t think so. I think if I do something wrong, I think, I just try and make it right. I don’t bring God into that picture. I don’t.”
He quickly added in garbled syntax, “We I take, when we go, and church and when I drink my little wine – which is about the only wine I drink – and have my little cracker, I guess that’s a form of asking for forgiveness, and I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed, OK? But, you know, to me that’s important, I do that, but in terms of officially, I could say, ‘Absolutely!’ and everybody, I don’t think in terms of that. I think in terms of, let’s go on and let’s make it right.”"

Cruz is Southern Baptist and aligns with the PRO-Life movement, he is against gay marriage and would be a proponent of prayer and seeking God's leadership.

So pray about who God would have you support if you haven't voted in a primary yet!

Those of us who are Presbyterian shuddered when he stated this...

 

[Rolfe]

Immigrants started this nation. The term should be anti-illegal immigrants.

Some think that there is no distinction between the two.

 

[FriendofSpurgeon]

The way I see it the GOP establishment has a few options:
1. Death by Democrats- they nominate Trump and the Democrats manage to stick the the tyranny lable on the entire GOP thus destroying the party.
2. Death by Trump- where somehow Trump wins the election and becomes the tyrant he is running to be. The GOP will never be able to run again without being considered Tyrants.
3. Rebirth with Cruz. Yes Cruz will go in there and clean house in Washington and the establishment will be out their backsides but the party will be remade in a much stronger way.
So no matter what the establishment is done after this election. The only choice is do they want to destroy their party in the process or have it remade stronger then ever?
I for one would rather see it remade, and I'd Trump is the nominee I will be writing in a candidate and be forever done with the GOP at the National level.

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I think you are on the right track. I think there's one more option. If none of the candidates get to the magic number of 1237 delegates, then the delegates are no longer bound to their candidate. I think it is likely that another candidate may be selected who will bring the party together. Yes, the GOP will be wounded - especially if some of the Trump supporters stay home on election day. However, not sure what states the GOP would lose by not having Trump run.

 

[Rolfe]

Can I ask you something? A lot of people on here are down on Trump and yet you focus on me almost like you take it personally that I think your guy is a Trojan Horse. I have said that from the beginning and yet you still quote me for not liking or at least supporting Trump. Why is that?

Stage 2 1/2.

 

[InTheLight]

However, not sure what states the GOP would lose by not having Trump run.

This is a critical point to consider. There are no states that would go to the GOP if Trump were running vs. another candidate. None.

 

[blessedwife318]

I think you are on the right track. I think there's one more option. If none of the candidates get to the magic number of 1237 delegates, then the delegates are no longer bound to their candidate. I think it is likely that another candidate may be selected who will bring the party together. Yes, the GOP will be wounded - especially if some of the Trump supporters stay home on election day. However, not sure what states the GOP would lose by not having Trump run.

Yes I realized that I have forgotten my 4th option, death by revolt in which there is a brokered convention and someone not named Cruz or Trump wins thus leading to a revolt from the voters feeling like they had been scammed.

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