DACA! Should they stay or should they go?

[righteousdude2]

Nearly 800,000 Dreamers Wait For Trump To Decide Whether To Change Their Lives

Well, the rubber is about to hit the road?! He preached throughout the campaign that this program was illegal, wrong and was something on his agenda to bring the curtain down on! The problem is, with time behind the big desk in the Oval Office, Trump has seen things in a new and different light, so what exactly will his decision be this coming Tuesday? Will he finally end the ILLEGAL Executive Order by Obama to permit close to a million children of illegal immigrant family children to remain in America, or will he end the program and end send these children back to the land they really should call their home?

This is a hot top issue, and I look forward to reading your responses. Should it go or should it stay??? YOU TELL ME!

 

[Adonia]

Here's my compromise. Let the children who were brought here through no fault of their own stay and deport their parents who came here illegally.

 

[JonC]

My vote would be to develop a program for existing immigrants to become citizens while remaining in the US (a legitimate way for them to become citizens within a specific and realistic time period). Add to this strict and enforceable (and enforced) immigration laws.

The reason I say this is we are not talking just about children. We are talking also about young adults who have known no other home but the US. We are also responsible for making laws we have not enforced and need to take responsibility for our part in this mess.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Here's my compromise. Let the children who were brought here through no fault of their own stay and deport their parents who came here illegally.

Yea so all those who come here for there kids to have a chance will continue coming here will still come here. No they need to reconfigure this so that there are stiff penalties for illegial actions, that there are performance criterion for them staying here and being educated...including at least 2 years of military service or some other USA programs.

 

[Deacon]

My vote would be to develop a program for existing immigrants to become citizens while remaining in the US (a legitimate way for them to become citizens within a specific and realistic time period). Add to this strict and enforceable (and enforced) immigration laws.

The reason I say this is we are not talking just about children. We are talking also about young adults who have known no other home but the US. We are also responsible for making laws we have not enforced and need to take responsibility for our part in this mess.

The President should use this issue to negotiate things he wants.

• Want a wall? We'll find a way to make the children of illegals legitimate citizens.
• Want to lower corporate taxes? We'll find a way to make children of illegals legitimate citizens.
• Want to lower taxes? We'll find a way...

Sure Trump will be demeaned and some will complain, but this is an issue that both some Retardians and Dementorcrats can agree on.

Rob

 

[Crabtownboy]

The choices are not sufficient for the topic and limit the voter to other rational decisions.

 

[righteousdude2]

The choices are not sufficient for the topic and limit the voter to other rational decisions.

sort of like what your DNC friends offer Americans, huh?

 

[saved41199]

righteousdude...what's up with the sudden explosion of posts about Hispanics? Are you trying to say something without coming right out and saying it? What's it to you if 800,000 kids who were brought here through no fault of their own find a pathway to citizenship? Should they be punished for the sins of their parents?

I'm a 53 year old "anchor baby" born to an illegal immigrant and a US Citizen. Do you think I should be deported?

 

[LowOiL]

Illegal is illegal...deport them, it is that simple.


Excerp from Pilgrim's Progress (Children's version by Tim Dowley)...

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Reference John 10:1 -- He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold but climbeth up another way, the same is a thief and a robber. .



We were born in the Land of Emptiness, and we're on our way to the Heavenly City," they replied.
"Then why did you jump over the wall, instead of coming through the little wooden gate? Don't you know that anyone who climbs in a different way is a thief?"
"It's a long way to the wooden gate," answered Mr. On-the-Surface. "Our people always take this short-cut. They've done it for hundreds of years, so it can't be wrong."
"But it's against the rules."
"It doesn't matter how we got in," said the men.
"If we're in, we're in."
"I walk by the Master's rules; you go your own way," said Christian.

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[TCassidy]

I'm a 53 year old "anchor baby" born to an illegal immigrant and a US Citizen. Do you think I should be deported?

How could you be deported? You have both Jus Soli and Jus Sanguinis citizenship.

 

[saved41199]

How could you be deported? You have both Jus Soli and Jus Sanguinis citizenship.

One illegal parent is all it takes...I may have been born here and even held a security clearance but it doesn't change that my mother was "illegal". With the current anti-immigrant (especially Hispanic) sentiment, it wouldn't take much for my citizenship to be stripped from me.

So...why the ire against Hispanics? What have they done to you? Don't even try to tell me about welfare benefits because I will tell you that's baloney. My mother (the illegal) worked here in the US and when the time came to try to claim her Social Security and Medicare, she was soundly rejected even though she had paid in for about 40 years. The burden of supporting her and paying her medical bills came to me. We lost a house because of that.

I currently live in a mostly Hispanic neighborhood. I can tell you that these people work HARD! Our downstairs neighbor works 3 jobs plus side jobs (car repairs). He is supporting his family, his sister's family and his nephew's family. Sure, they speak Spanish (and I'm finally learning better Spanish) and they may get a little rowdy on Saturday night, but they are the hardest working folks I have ever seen. They work harder than the white drunk next door who does nothing but collect some sort of benefit and drinks himself into oblivion every night and picks fights with his wife.

 

[TCassidy]

One illegal parent is all it takes.

Nonsense. Your mother's status has absolutely nothing to do with your citizenship.

I may have been born here and even held a security clearance but it doesn't change that my mother was "illegal". With the current anti-immigrant (especially Hispanic) sentiment, it wouldn't take much for my citizenship to be stripped from me.

Although rare, it is possible for a naturalized U.S. citizen to have his or her citizenship stripped through a process called "denaturalization."

Natural-born U.S. citizens may not have their citizenship revoked against their will.

I am not sure where you are getting this bogus information but it is wrong. So wrong a 4th grader in civics class would know better!

 

[Revmitchell]

No one has used the word "Hispanic" except the one person accusing others of singling out Hispanics.

 

[InTheLight]

Trump has seen things in a new and different light, so what exactly will his decision be this coming Tuesday? Will he finally end the ILLEGAL Executive Order by Obama to permit close to a million children of illegal immigrant family children to remain in America, or will he end the program and end send these children back to the land they really should call their home?

Trump will sign an Executive Order that will call for a study of the DACA issue. He will then tweet that he has reversed Obama's DACA policy. Trump's sheep will believe he ended DACA and move on to the next hot button issue, like why a HuffPo reporter didn't apologize to Melania over a tweet about shoes.



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[HankD]

Trump will sign an Executive Order that will call for a study of the DACA issue. He will then tweet that he has reversed Obama's DACA policy. Trump's sheep will believe he ended DACA and move on to the next hot button issue,..

Don't believe it.

HankD

 

[Crabtownboy]

Maybe we should allow those who are law abiding and with jobs to stay and deport the KKK, White Supremacists and others who are so unhappy here. [Sarcasm]

Remember how conservatives used to say "If you don't love it here, go elsewhere"?

 

[Revmitchell]

President Donald Trump has decided to end the Obama-era program that grants work permits to undocumented immigrants who arrived in the country as children, according to two sources familiar with his thinking. Senior White House aides huddled Sunday afternoon to discuss the rollout of a decision likely to ignite a political firestorm — and fulfill one of the president’s core campaign promises.

The administration’s deliberations on the issue have been fluid and fast moving, and the president has faced strong warnings from members of his own party not to scrap the program.
Trump has wrestled for months with whether to do away with the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, known as DACA. But conversations with Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who argued that Congress — rather than the executive branch — is responsible for writing immigration law, helped persuade the president to terminate the program and kick the issue to Congress, the two sources said.

In a nod to reservations held by many lawmakers, the White House plans to delay the enforcement of the president’s decision for six months, giving Congress a window to act, according to one White House official. But a senior White House aide said that chief of staff John Kelly, who has been running the West Wing policy process on the issue, “thinks Congress should’ve gotten its act together a lot longer ago.”

Trump has decided to end DACA, with 6-month delay

 

[InTheLight]

Don't believe it.

HankD

Elaborate.

You don't believe the scenario I posted that Trump will sign a toothless Executive Order?

Or that people shouldn't believe it when Trump says he reversed DACA?

He's either going to sign a meaningless EO or else make a generic statement about DACA and then urge Congress to do something about it.

In other words, he doesn't know how to be a leader.

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[InTheLight]

President Donald Trump has decided to end the Obama-era program that grants work permits to undocumented immigrants who arrived in the country as children, according to two sources familiar with his thinking.
Trump has decided to end DACA, with 6-month delay

Ah. I see. So now that it's an issue you support you believe stories in Politico that use unnamed sources.



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[HankD]

In other words, he doesn't know how to be a leader.

Don't believe that - it's easy for you to sit back and launch your insulting criticism at your president without offering your own solution which (if you did) would probably be a progressive liberal solution which you try to hide ITL.

We all knew it wouldn't be long after his humanitarian trip to the flood victims that someone would renew the bad mouthing and nay saying, looks like you were the first this time ITL.

So give your solution so we can evaluate it.

HankD