"Dancing Makes Me Angry"

[Aaron]

Originally posted by Glenda:
Well, having danced all my life and having taught dance (ballet, jazz, modern)for many years...now retired from teaching...now a dance choreographer...there is alot of wholesome dance out there and there is alot of trash. I even see a good purpose for dance in church. Dancing is a gift I was given from God and I can't see why He would be unhappy with me if I used it as part of my worship and praise.

The question of which forms of dancing are right or wrong is a question for theologians, not dance instructors.

 

[Aaron]

Originally posted by mioque:
Salamander
When bringing the Arc of the Covenant into Jerusalem king David danced around with his tunic hiked up so high that the onlookers could see for themselves that he was indeed part of the male half of the human race....

This is simply the most convoluted reading of the that passage that can be imagined. It's worse even than those who read it as if David was dancing in his underwear.

A linen ephod was a priestly garment. Michal's rail was a false accusation.

 

[standingfirminChrist]

I am sure the dancing David was doing was not choreographed. Why teach dance? especially in churches as I have seen in some of the modern mainstrean churches?

 

[Glenda]

 

[Glenda]

Composers compose songs through musical notes. Choreographers compose through movement. Why teach dance? Why teach music and/or voice?!

 

[Scarlett O.]

Originally posted by Aaron:
The question of which forms of dancing are right or wrong is a question for theologians, not dance instructors.

Aaron,

Forgive me. I have held a condescending attitude towards you. I have just spent the last several minutes erasing a rude post.

This post of yours makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever. I'll just leave it at that.

Peace-
Scarlett O.
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[USN2Pulpit]

Good way to go...

 

[Aaron]

Originally posted by Scarlett O.:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Aaron:
The question of which forms of dancing are right or wrong is a question for theologians, not dance instructors.

Aaron,

...

This post of yours makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever. I'll just leave it at that.</font>[/QUOTE]It's very simple really. The knowledge of right and wrong is really a knowledge of God. What the writer of the article cited in the OP is saying is that he knows better about what pleases God or not than all his former teachers, and the administration at the school he works in. All those who posted in agreement with him are saying the exact same things, but are a bit more liberal with the vitriol.

The fact of the matter is, that the knowledge of right and wrong about anything in the world has very little to do with technical knowledge on any subject, only the knowledge of God. Now if someone asked me, "Is Zwitching a bad thing?" I would have to know what Zwitching was, of course. But we all know what music and dancing is. It's part of human behavior. A choreographer or a musicologist can be at a disadvantage actually. Every dance and musical composition is to be taken in as a unified whole, but those instructed in the arts tend to break them down into their component parts, and they lose their romance. These things can be more clinical to them then to those of us on the outside looking in. But those who drive the art industry are the masses who have very little technical knowledge of the arts, but we like them because they have a certain appeal. Note the word "certain." They have a certain appeal, not an ambiguous or subjective one. That appeal can and should be judged, and anyone who knows God can and should do it.

So, what is the appeal of a night of dancing, whether it's at a school or club? Irving Berlin was at least honest about it. Why can't we be honest too?

 

[mioque]

Aaron
Priestly vestments indeed aren't underwear, so Mikal isn't accusing Dave of dancing around in his undies.
In this era before the invention of pants, or well.. underpants she's most certainly accusing him of showing of his 'manhood'.
Considering his response to ther accusation (not the part about God, the other part) I'd say she is telling the truth and he doesn't care.

 

[Johnv]

Originally posted by Salamander:
Uh, maybe you should research before you blabber? Men At Work performed "YMCA" on the Grammy's in 1980

So, they performed YMCA. SO what? Lost of bands have performed it. You claimed The Village People became "Men at Work". That's completely and totally false. By your contention, every band that performs "YMCA" is related to the Village People.

Your refusal to correct your incorrect statement is hereby noted.

Originally posted by Salamander:
And your Scripture to enhance your presumption?

Perhaps if you read the whole chapter...

 

[Salamander]

Originally posted by mioque:
Aaron
Priestly vestments indeed aren't underwear, so Mikal isn't accusing Dave of dancing around in his undies.
In this era before the invention of pants, or well.. underpants she's most certainly accusing him of showing of his 'manhood'.
Considering his response to ther accusation (not the part about God, the other part) I'd say she is telling the truth and he doesn't care.

Better research the tunic worn by the priests dear.

 

[Salamander]

Originally posted by Johnv:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Salamander:
Uh, maybe you should research before you blabber? Men At Work performed "YMCA" on the Grammy's in 1980

So, they performed YMCA. SO what? Lost of bands have performed it. You claimed The Village People became "Men at Work". That's completely and totally false. By your contention, every band that performs "YMCA" is related to the Village People.

Your refusal to correct your incorrect statement is hereby noted.

Originally posted by Salamander:
And your Scripture to enhance your presumption?

Perhaps if you read the whole chapter... </font>[/QUOTE]Excuse my failure to correctly reference heathenism. Maybe you shouldn't be so quick to pull the trigger? I worked from memory and had the two confused, but what to be expected? I'm living for God now, not this present evil world that believes dancing in an unholy manner is permissable.

Isaiah's "rehearsing" before Israel does not demand an actual portrayel, only a descriptive account by mouth.

 

[mioque]

Salamander
They come with a pair of trousers? They are lingerie after all? You think those garments are so long and stiff that the wearer can't 'expose' himself no matter how hard he tries?

 

[Bible-boy]

Originally posted by USN2Pulpit:
Have you ever seen baptists try to clap along with a song...it's hilarious!

I have no natural rhythm. Therefore, I can't dance very well and I can't clap and sing at the same time!

I did enjoy dancing with my 10 year old daughter, then my wife, then my mother at my nephew's wedding recently.

Unfortunately, when I was dancing with my wife I stepped on her foot. She pointed out that I am a hopeless dancer and that pretty much ended our time on the dance floor.

 

[Helen]

Ahhhh, there's the problem! Those of us with natural rhythm and a sense of music must not be very good Baptists!

 

[Johnv]

Originally posted by Salamander:
Excuse my failure to correctly reference heathenism. Maybe you shouldn't be so quick to pull the trigger? I worked from memory and had the two confused, but what to be expected? I'm living for God now, not this present evil world that believes dancing in an unholy manner is permissable.

That's no excuse to be quick to comment falsely and slow to correct yourself. Even here, you can't even acknowlege your error without coming up with an excuse for it. Sorry, but there is no excuse for error for a Christian. We should be quick to acknowlege our error when we do err. There's no shame in that.

However, the fact that you do acknowlege yor error is hereby noted and appreciated.

As far as dancing, no one here disagrees that dancing in an unholy manner should be avoided by the Christian. Many, though, disagree with your requisite of unholy. Sorry, but when my 72 year old mother dances to "YMCA" or the Hokey Pokey, etc, it's by no means unholy.

Now, when I dance, it's a sin, but that's because I've got 12 left feet.

Isaiah's "rehearsing" before Israel does not demand an actual portrayel, only a descriptive account by mouth.

Can't for the life of me figure out what that has to do with the price of tea in China.

 

[Salamander]

Originally posted by mioque:
Salamander
They come with a pair of trousers? They are lingerie after all? You think those garments are so long and stiff that the wearer can't 'expose' himself no matter how hard he tries?

You pervert the Scripture by modernism. The tunic well covered the body as not to be considered exposing ones-self. David's wife was jealous of his walk with God, Scripture defines that.

 

[Salamander]

That's no excuse to be quick to comment falsely and slow to correct yourself. Even here, you can't even acknowlege your error without coming up with an excuse for it. Sorry, but there is no excuse for error for a Christian. We should be quick to acknowlege our error when we do err. There's no shame in that.

I wasn't making an excuse. I wasn't sure I was wrong until I researched it for myself. I dont keep up with the world and it's antics. I relied solely upon memory until you confronted me. I was right about the grammy's of 1980, but wrong to think the two bands merged, but then you might have been wrong by the statement I quoted above in your intent: consider.

 

[mioque]

Salamander
You can't dance in a priestly tunic unless you hike up part of it. You go to far doing that and you jump around wildly enough....

 

[Rachel]

I can't imagine this..."Dancing Makes Me Angry". How sad!
I love music, and sometimes you just have to sing and dance along! Brings my spirit alot of JOY and refreshes me. Praise God!

Psalm 150

1 Praise the LORD!

Praise God in His sanctuary;

Praise Him in His mighty expanse.

2 Praise Him for His mighty deeds;

Praise Him according to His excellent greatness.

3 Praise Him with trumpet sound;

Praise Him with harp and lyre.

4 Praise Him with timbrel and dancing;

Praise Him with stringed instruments and pipe.

5 Praise Him with loud cymbals;

Praise Him with resounding cymbals.

6 Let everything that has breath praise the LORD.

Praise the LORD